DT Swiss 240s VS Chris King
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DT Swiss 240s VS Chris King
Ok so I'll be building myself a wheelset soon and am looking for opinions. I'm looking to build a sub-1500g 32h rear/ 28h front wheelset using DT Swiss RR1415 rims and DT Swiss Aerospeed spokes. This wheelset with the 240s hubs comes out to about 1498.56 grams with my calculations based on DT Swiss's listed weights. I know the Chris King hubs are heavier but if they are worth the extra weight I wouldn't mind. Which hubs would you guys go with? Thanks, Greg
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DT hubs. because they're light, not that bad in terms of durability and they don't sound like a bunch of angry bees when coasting.
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yeah that's pretty annoying but I was looking on their site and it said they were super easy to maintain with just normal tools while the dt swiss hubs use proprietary tools or something? I don't know specifically but was just looking to see in terms of quality and performance which ones you guys liked best. leaning towards the dt swiss... plus they're 30 bucks cheaper haha
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well, you get to choose 3 out of 4.
aerodynamics
light weight
price
durability
aerodynamics
light weight
price
durability
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light weight, price, and durability. at 6' 215 i'm not a small dude so im not exactly the most aerodynamic to begin with haha
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I have a 240S on my rear race wheel. It's been great so far.
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I would say go for the CK hubs, but we're talking about road bikes. DT Swiss hubs are good quality, as is all of their stuff, so go with them for weight and price. Probably pretty durable, I only had their wheelset for a brief period.
On the other hand, a CK hub on a single speed titanium mountain bike...I get all sweaty and drooly just thinking about it.
On the other hand, a CK hub on a single speed titanium mountain bike...I get all sweaty and drooly just thinking about it.
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I would say go for the CK hubs, but we're talking about road bikes. DT Swiss hubs are good quality, as is all of their stuff, so go with them for weight and price. Probably pretty durable, I only had their wheelset for a brief period.
On the other hand, a CK hub on a single speed titanium mountain bike...I get all sweaty and drooly just thinking about it.
On the other hand, a CK hub on a single speed titanium mountain bike...I get all sweaty and drooly just thinking about it.
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Both hubs are top notch, and you can't go wrong with either. There is definitely more bling factor to the King hubs - will you be pairing them with a King headset. If so, you have to get the King hubs - it should be a rule.
I'm curious though, why are you going with a 28 and 32 spoke build. That's pretty beefy if you are trying to build a lightweight wheelset.
Also, Sapim CX-Ray spokes will be cheaper and just as light/durable as the DT aerospokes. And Kinlin rims will be just as light, maybe even lighter, and cost less than DT rims.
I'm curious though, why are you going with a 28 and 32 spoke build. That's pretty beefy if you are trying to build a lightweight wheelset.
Also, Sapim CX-Ray spokes will be cheaper and just as light/durable as the DT aerospokes. And Kinlin rims will be just as light, maybe even lighter, and cost less than DT rims.
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that's why even DA is a bit heavy.
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I have a spare rear wheel with a DA7800 hub (tall splines) and it's almost completely silent when coasting. I also have some wheels with DT Swiss 240s and they are pretty quiet as well compared to Mavic or Dura Ace 7850 hubs but louder than the DA 7800's.
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Ok so I'll be building myself a wheelset soon and am looking for opinions. I'm looking to build a sub-1500g 32h rear/ 28h front wheelset using DT Swiss RR1415 rims and DT Swiss Aerospeed spokes. This wheelset with the 240s hubs comes out to about 1498.56 grams with my calculations based on DT Swiss's listed weights. I know the Chris King hubs are heavier but if they are worth the extra weight I wouldn't mind. Which hubs would you guys go with? Thanks, Greg
I have some DT Swiss 240s laced to Open Pros (5g+/- more than RR415 rims) /w Sapim CX-Ray spokes (28 radial front, 2x 32 rear) and the set comes out to exactly 1520g on a jeweler's scale, that's without rim tape, which adds around 30g.
edit: I used to have the above wheels laced to DT Swiss RR1.1 rims (which are the same as RR415 if I am not mistaken) and the actual weights are 10g+/- more than the claimed 415g.
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Both hubs are top notch, and you can't go wrong with either. There is definitely more bling factor to the King hubs - will you be pairing them with a King headset. If so, you have to get the King hubs - it should be a rule.
I'm curious though, why are you going with a 28 and 32 spoke build. That's pretty beefy if you are trying to build a lightweight wheelset.
Also, Sapim CX-Ray spokes will be cheaper and just as light/durable as the DT aerospokes. And Kinlin rims will be just as light, maybe even lighter, and cost less than DT rims.
I'm curious though, why are you going with a 28 and 32 spoke build. That's pretty beefy if you are trying to build a lightweight wheelset.
Also, Sapim CX-Ray spokes will be cheaper and just as light/durable as the DT aerospokes. And Kinlin rims will be just as light, maybe even lighter, and cost less than DT rims.
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Because I'm not a small dude and if I can build a 28/32h wheelset that still comes to about 1500g I'd rather have that than a lower spoke count wheel that won't be as strong and only like 50g lighter. And kimconyc 1520g is close enough to 1500g for me haha and the RR1.1s are like 10g lighter than open pros so it should all even out to be right around there
If you don't really care about each gram, I'd look into getting Kinlin XR-300's because they will be much stiffer than the RR415 rims.
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Ok so I'll be building myself a wheelset soon and am looking for opinions. I'm looking to build a sub-1500g 32h rear/ 28h front wheelset using DT Swiss RR1415 rims and DT Swiss Aerospeed spokes. This wheelset with the 240s hubs comes out to about 1498.56 grams with my calculations based on DT Swiss's listed weights. I know the Chris King hubs are heavier but if they are worth the extra weight I wouldn't mind. Which hubs would you guys go with? Thanks, Greg
I have the CK hubs with RR1.1 rims, 32h 2x both front and back, and have never put them on the scale but they have been very solid. My vote is for the CK hubs but I like the sound. I think it is a good safety feature to loudly announce your presence to the pedestrians/joggers that got lost on their way to the sidewalk and are hogging the bike lane.
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Pretty sure that video is the CK mountain hub, and the CK road hub is different (apparently the noise is not as pronounced).
Just saying if you're put off by that video...
Just saying if you're put off by that video...
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I work for a shop and we don't have access to kinlin rims
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Here's a review of many boutique hubs that includes the Chris King R45 (newer than Classic) and DT Swiss 240S: https://fairwheelbikes.com/forum/view...hp?f=65&t=6940
The R45 design has been modified from the Classic so that it is not so noisy.
The R45 design has been modified from the Classic so that it is not so noisy.
This hub is significantly quieter than the classic version thanks to it's lower number of engagement points and it's titanium drive and driven rings. The reduced number of engagements means that it does have more degrees of free movement before the pedals engage compared to the almost instant engagement on the class.
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