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Grommit 05-05-10 12:59 PM

Specialized vs Scott
 
I am looking at the 2009 Scott Speedster S40 and the 2010 Specialized Allez Sport. The Scott would need to be ordered online. I test rode the Specialized and it seems pretty comfortable but has slightly lower quality components from what I can tell. I have had two back surgeries so comfort is my main issue. I will ride only for excercise and maybe a one day charity ride occasionally if I can get back into shape without back issues. Any opinions on either. The Scott is about $50 cheaper but I cannot test ride. Thanks.

WhyFi 05-05-10 01:03 PM

If comfort is the main thing, why not one of the more relaxed geometry bikes, like the Roubaix, Synapse, etc?

Grommit 05-05-10 01:16 PM

Maybe price. how much do those run?

PhotoJoe 05-05-10 01:28 PM

I think the Roubaix will be significantly more, however, the Secteur (Specialized) is the same geo but aluminum and only a few bucks more than the Allez Sport.

sparker 05-05-10 01:34 PM

When I was shopping for a new ride I rode everything I could get my butt on. I really took a long look at the the Specialized line and rode several. Most of them were loaded w/ Sram components w/ the double tap which was the deal breaker for me. They rode great, but I could not get past the shifters. I chose an '08 Scott CR-1 Team w/ a full 105 and never looked back. I wanted to flip the stem from the upright position and the LBS told me to wait 'til I got used to it. I've never changed it. I've ridden over 3,500 miles so far and loving every mile.

I had to change the seat to a Bontrager, The Scott seat started digging into my legs after I dropped weight after my knee surgery.

Good luck!!

rschleicher 05-05-10 05:49 PM

You could probably get a sense of how the Scott Speedster and Spec. Allez would compare, fit-wise, by doing a close comparison of the geometry specs from both vendors' websites.

At the same price point of the Allez, Specialized also makes the Secteur, which has a more comfort-oriented geometry (taller head tube, for one thing), that is based on the Roubaix geometry. (Allez is to Tarmac as Secteur is to Roubaix, more or less). (Oh, I see that this is a dupe of what someone said above - sorry!)

The Speedster is, I think closer to the Allez geometry than it is to the Secteur.

Brightwork 05-05-10 06:56 PM

I bought a Scott because I like the way they look. Buy the one you like. It's not about need, it's about want - get the one you like instinctively. It's easier that way.

Grommit 05-05-10 08:48 PM

What do you look at to determine a more relaxed geometry.

mobike_moexcite 05-05-10 09:34 PM

The Secteur is esssntially an aluminum Roubaix. Base model starts at about $800 and that has pretty relaxed geometry but it is not pure comfort per se. It is going to be more comfortable than a regular road bike but you may be able to find something with more lax angles. There are a lot of things to look at for comfort. the saddle to handlebar drop, your reach to the handlebars, but for a relaxed feel, maybe look at a longer chainstay, seat and headtube angles that are not too steep. The best way to find out what you like is to test ride a bunch of different ones. Go for frame geometry and size first and then decide on componetry level. Good luck!

WhyFi 05-05-10 09:40 PM

A lot of places are going to categorize this type of bike as a sportive or endurance road bike - peruse some of the offerings available at review/on-line magazines to get an idea.

fadi 05-06-10 06:07 AM

I cracked over a Specialized Secteur Elite Triple :) and I can't but recommend it for you!
I have the same use and need of a bike as yours, and it is working fine...

Eclectus 05-06-10 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by sparker (Post 10769095)
When I was shopping for a new ride I rode everything I could get my butt on. I really took a long look at the the Specialized line and rode several. Most of them were loaded w/ Sram components w/ the double tap which was the deal breaker for me. They rode great, but I could not get past the shifters. I chose an '08 Scott CR-1 Team w/ a full 105 and never looked back. I wanted to flip the stem from the upright position and the LBS told me to wait 'til I got used to it. I've never changed it. I've ridden over 3,500 miles so far and loving every mile.

I had to change the seat to a Bontrager, The Scott seat started digging into my legs after I dropped weight after my knee surgery.

Good luck!!

Interesting take on SRAM. I just noticed yesterday it's induced a strange new habit--single- finger downshifting on the RD. This was something I never thought about trying when I rode Shimano, because it wasn't possible, but with SRAM it just sort of happened.

Two-finger riding the hoods braking and one finger in the drops braking, doable with all. SRAM brakes have great modulation. I've only locked-up skidded one time when two dogs got into my path, and I panicked; they weren't attacking, they just weren't looking where they were going.

Bottom line, I don't think anybody should look at SRAM as a deal-breaker. It's good stuff.

WhyFi 05-06-10 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Eclectus (Post 10772272)
Bottom line, I don't think anybody should look at SRAM as a deal-breaker. It's good stuff.

Some people are just used to two shifting levers, whether or not SRAM makes quality products.

Brightwork 05-06-10 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Grommit (Post 10771051)
What do you look at to determine a more relaxed geometry.

You can look at the geometry spec sheet or ride it. Never buy a bike that doesn't fit comfortably.

If they all fit and are on budget, then it all comes down to personal preference. Buy what you like now - you'll be upgrading or trading that bike soon enough.

sparker 05-12-10 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Eclectus (Post 10772272)
Interesting take on SRAM. I just noticed yesterday it's induced a strange new habit--single- finger downshifting on the RD. This was something I never thought about trying when I rode Shimano, because it wasn't possible, but with SRAM it just sort of happened.

Two-finger riding the hoods braking and one finger in the drops braking, doable with all. SRAM brakes have great modulation. I've only locked-up skidded one time when two dogs got into my path, and I panicked; they weren't attacking, they just weren't looking where they were going.

Bottom line, I don't think anybody should look at SRAM as a deal-breaker. It's good stuff.

Hey ...

We all know that SRAM makes excellent components. I just wasn't willing to rethink / relearn the shifting process. Alot going on out during a ride. Don't want to stop and think about shifting.

Thanks

ctcycler 05-12-10 09:10 AM

EMS and REI sell Scott bikes if you have one near you and you want to test ride one. Just call first and make sure that the model/size is built up and on the floor first.

ultraman6970 05-12-10 09:30 AM

Scott

priceless 05-12-10 11:52 AM

I love my Scott S40 and would definetly recommend it, but as mentioned beforehand it is definetly not a more relaxed road bike. Have you considered steel?
http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebik...satellite.html
http://www.bianchiusa.com/bikes/gran-fondo/imola/
Or if you wanted to stay AL try the Trek pilot, C-dale synapse, Specialized secteur, Jamis Ventura etc..


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