Why do road bikes have such big wheels?
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this is like the little red riding hood thread...
Grandma, why do road bikes have such big wheels? All the better to run over you with.
Grandma, why do road bikes have such big wheels? All the better to run over you with.
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After having my 20" front wheel slide out under me once and another time having it lock while braking, I lack confidence in corners with my folding bike.
On the other hand, with my CAAD9 and CX bikes, I can pedal through corners that are relatively sharp with confidence.
I always hear that mounting panniers lower is better for stability, so my guess is lower CoG = stabler.
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I'd rather be too fat for the sport than have no endurance.
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Gear ratio is probably a significant concern. The smaller the wheel diameter, the smaller the cogs (or the larger the chainrings) need to be to keep the same gear ratio. Since cassettes are currently limited to a 11T cog on the small end, chainrings would have to get significantly larger to make up for the smaller wheel diameter.
700C wheels are traditional and in many respects road bike enthusiasts are conservative, as is the International Cucling Union which governs racing bike legal configurations. If not racing legal most manufacturers will not likely build it and many road cyclists will not buy it.
Most bicycle wheel sizes date back to when roads were a lot worse than now and larger wheels gave a smoother ride on rough roads. 27" (630mm BSD) and 28" (635mm BSD) wheels used to be common and tires are still available for both wheel sizes. 700c wheels and tires became common in the USA due to Italian bikes using them and due to the rim size being compatible with tubular tire wheels as far as brake pad height adjustment is concerned. That makes swapping between clincher training wheels and tubular race wheels easy. 27" wheels were the commonest ones on most road and touring bikes sold here until the early 80s or so.
29er wheels are just wide700c rims with fat tires, not a different size as far as bead seat diameter is concerned.
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small wheels can be.
Small wheels, with high pressure tyres on a bike with suspension can be as fast as a regular road bike as Alex Moulton demonstrated in the 1960s. You just need a really big chainring (60 tooth or bigger). Suspsension is usefull with small wheels as they don't roll as nicely over bumps as a larger wheel.
Small wheels, with high pressure tyres on a bike with suspension can be as fast as a regular road bike as Alex Moulton demonstrated in the 1960s. You just need a really big chainring (60 tooth or bigger). Suspsension is usefull with small wheels as they don't roll as nicely over bumps as a larger wheel.
Perhaps everybody here with their "Big wheels are faster 'cos they're bigger" argument might spend a few moments to Google "Alex Moulton" and learn something.... just sayin'
Oh yeah, and you might find out that the Moulton bicycles were beating everything in speed records, track, road , TT and long distance cycling until cycling's world governing body banned them from competing against "normal bikes" .... sour grapes?
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2. Rolling resistance is effected by wheel radius on a pneumatic tire especially. The angle at which the tire contacts the road (impingement angle) effects the magnitude of tire drag. The tire drag vector acts perpendicular to the impingement angle, so the larger the radius the more vertical that drag vector is and the smaller the horizontal component.
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One thing that has not been addressed to any extent: braking. I rode with a guy who had a Bike Friday, and he loved it, with one reservation. He was a big guy, well over 200 pounds and he was very cautious about descending because his rims tended to overheat during sustained braking
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The thing that Fat boy didn't mention aside from angle of attack and contact patch depth is contact patch "shape". For the same psi the surface area is the same for same weight rider and bike if tire pressure is the same...but....shape is different which affects the riding dynamic of the bike.
Because the tire patch is longer for a taller wheel this affects handling and rolling resistance. The reason the other poster mentioned that his 20" bike skidded on corners is because of its short contact patch. This holds true of 29er mtbs which carve in dirt much better than 26er's for the same width tire. As to rolling resistance, it is more than angle of attack that Fat boy mentioned. Its again about contact patch shape. A longer contact patch for the same surface area translates to a more narrow patch and that means the tire deflects less in cross section which translates to lower rolling resistance. In summary the reason why road bike wheels aren't even larger is wheel strength to weight ratio and larger wheels and suitable larger frames with longer and heavier rear and front fork stays don't fit riders left of center and smaller in stature. Marketing doesn't drive trends. Good technical trends drive marketing.
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At last somebody has mentioned Alex Moulton.........
Perhaps everybody here with their "Big wheels are faster 'cos they're bigger" argument might spend a few moments to Google "Alex Moulton" and learn something.... just sayin'
Oh yeah, and you might find out that the Moulton bicycles were beating everything in speed records, track, road , TT and long distance cycling until cycling's world governing body banned them from competing against "normal bikes" .... sour grapes?
Perhaps everybody here with their "Big wheels are faster 'cos they're bigger" argument might spend a few moments to Google "Alex Moulton" and learn something.... just sayin'
Oh yeah, and you might find out that the Moulton bicycles were beating everything in speed records, track, road , TT and long distance cycling until cycling's world governing body banned them from competing against "normal bikes" .... sour grapes?
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there are street circuits... Adelaide for example
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nope.
I think he would be better served by disc brakes.
One thing that has not been addressed to any extent: braking. I rode with a guy who had a Bike Friday, and he loved it, with one reservation. He was a big guy, well over 200 pounds and he was very cautious about descending because his rims tended to overheat during sustained braking
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I do need to get a very marginally longer stem on my 55cm I think but only 10mm up. Not sure I'd be able to get the bars where I want on a bigger bike.
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I hope that none of the posters in this thread ever take an engineering course from me.
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