What % is about the bike?
05-15-10, 07:26 PM
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I dont know, I think the bike has something to do with it. After all without a bike Lance Armstrong would just be a really skinny dude.
05-15-10, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by agarose2000
I'm the same speed in the non-aero position on my $700 Giant Defy 3 with Sora/2200 components compared to my nearly $3k Cervelo P2C. It's all rider.
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05-15-10, 08:15 PM
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I know that this is road bike forum but I want to talk about my recent mtn. bike experience because it pertains. I recently had a chance to ride a Giant Anthem X1 (demo days) I own a 97 Cannondale Super V700. I was able to ride trails that I have ridden many times before and could not keep up with my friend usually on my Cannondale. I rode the Giant for almost 2hrs. All things the same, riding the Giant, I was on his wheel for almost the entire ride. The seat did not fit me comfortably and I rode faster (avg speed) with the Giant. So the bike does make a big difference!
05-15-10, 08:19 PM
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I do a regular 10 mile commute on a Surly Long Haul Trucker, with a rack, pannier, and fenders. Bike weighs over 30 lbs before adding the pannier and a water bottle, so figure around 40 pounds total. Recently, I rode my Cervelo RS on the same route, no pannier. The Cervelo weighs around 17 lbs, so figure 18 lbs with the water bottle. Result: cut my time by around 15%. I'm no different, so clearly the bike made the difference. Key factors: weight, more aero riding position, more aero due to no pannier, less tire resistance (narrower tires and larger diameter wheels).
05-15-10, 08:22 PM
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Bike riding is not about the bike.
Rocking out onstage is not about the guitar.
Shooting is not about the rifle.
Sex is not about the girl.
Rocking out onstage is not about the guitar.
Shooting is not about the rifle.
Sex is not about the girl.
05-15-10, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by f4rrest
No, half the population is below the median. Less than half the population know that.
I used the colloquial term "average" because we all have a commonly understood interpretation of "below average intelligence", enough to know it doesn't apply to any of us.
05-15-10, 10:14 PM
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30.5% of the replies to this thread so far (not including this post) have been political in nature.
How far can we push it?
(thanks for the push Pcad)
How far can we push it?
(thanks for the push Pcad)
05-16-10, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by finale23
deleted funny political content
Last edited by Walter; 05-16-10 at 06:17 AM.
05-16-10, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by agarose2000
I'm the same speed in the non-aero position on my $700 Giant Defy 3 with Sora/2200 components compared to my nearly $3k Cervelo P2C. It's all rider.
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05-16-10, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by coasting
i expect this kind of ignorance from a BF noob, not a seasoned old timer. Here, have some kool aid.
05-16-10, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by akansaskid
And even less than that know that the term "average" has no (precise) statistical meaning. The three recognized measures of central tendency are mean, mean, and mode.
I used the colloquial term "average" because we all have a commonly understood interpretation of "below average intelligence", enough to know it doesn't apply to any of us.
I used the colloquial term "average" because we all have a commonly understood interpretation of "below average intelligence", enough to know it doesn't apply to any of us.
05-16-10, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Aimulator64
How a bike shifts has nothing to do with how fast it is.
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05-16-10, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by coasting
105 = ultegra
05-16-10, 01:44 AM
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I weigh a few pounds less than a big percent of the riders out there. So I could afford to buy a cheaper little bit heavier bike than what the rest may have bought. So the percentage I got was 100% efficent. Approaching the end of a ride though, most people are dead weight regardless, and a couple grams on the bike isn't going to matter much. Just like me dropping a pound or 2 in the bathroom before I leave really isnt going to effect much, unless I soil me spandex.
05-16-10, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kindablue
30.5% of the replies to this thread so far (not including this post) have been political in nature.
How far can we push it?
(thanks for the push Pcad)
How far can we push it?
(thanks for the push Pcad)
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05-16-10, 06:13 AM
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05-16-10, 06:14 AM
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Actually no further.
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05-16-10, 06:25 AM
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OK for those of you who don't know. We have a place where ranting about politics is the expected norm. It is called the Politics and Religion subforum. Click here.
There you will find both worthy adversaries and trustworthy allies no matter what your political stripe might be.
Here we try to talk about bicycles.
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There you will find both worthy adversaries and trustworthy allies no matter what your political stripe might be.
Here we try to talk about bicycles.
/PSA
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05-16-10, 06:25 AM
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I left some of the original sparring and the vocabulary lessons in an attempt to draw a line.
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05-16-10, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Walter
I left some of the original sparring and the vocabulary lessons in an attempt to draw a line.
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Originally Posted by petalpower
If true, that explains the Obama victory.
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Originally Posted by Walter
I left some of the original sparring and the vocabulary lessons in an attempt to draw a line.
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Originally Posted by RidingMatthew
I know that this is road bike forum but I want to talk about my recent mtn. bike experience because it pertains. I recently had a chance to ride a Giant Anthem X1 (demo days) I own a 97 Cannondale Super V700. I was able to ride trails that I have ridden many times before and could not keep up with my friend usually on my Cannondale. I rode the Giant for almost 2hrs. All things the same, riding the Giant, I was on his wheel for almost the entire ride. The seat did not fit me comfortably and I rode faster (avg speed) with the Giant. So the bike does make a big difference!
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05-16-10, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blueride2
You left the original smear by Pcad.
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Originally Posted by ScrubJ
My bad. Didn't read this far in before my comment.
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05-16-10, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ptle
I used to do group rides with a 1988 Bianchi Brava. It's a steel 14 speed bike with downtube shifters. I usually kept my commuting stuff (not tires) on it and it weighed about 25 pounds. I was able to keep up on fast group rides. The only time I got dropped was while doing an 11 mile climb, but that's because everyone else had been riding more than I have. I was able to keep two guys on nicer bikes, before they had to turn around because of a derailleur issue. However everyone was going their own pace, so I probably would have gotten passed. One guy on an even older Schwinn bike with DT shifters was able to keep up with everyone on their <20 pound bikes.
I also started doing this weekly Thursday ride, which is a good B pace. I was able to keep up with the group and take some pulls. I did this ride 2 or 3 times before I got my carbon bike. Since then I've done it 2 or 3 more times. The pace has gone up a bit, but on my carbon bike I do a lot better on the hills and can take longer pulls.
The main thing that helped is the responsiveness and stiffness of the bike. Going up hills on my Bianchi, I would normally be in the middle of the pack. Now I'm usually first or second to get up the hill with a good lead on the group. (We do a lot of regrouping at turns/stop signs).
However it could be because of my fitness. Once I started doing that first group ride, I really started biking a lot more.
A nicer bike helps, but not even close to as much as getting in shape.
I also started doing this weekly Thursday ride, which is a good B pace. I was able to keep up with the group and take some pulls. I did this ride 2 or 3 times before I got my carbon bike. Since then I've done it 2 or 3 more times. The pace has gone up a bit, but on my carbon bike I do a lot better on the hills and can take longer pulls.
The main thing that helped is the responsiveness and stiffness of the bike. Going up hills on my Bianchi, I would normally be in the middle of the pack. Now I'm usually first or second to get up the hill with a good lead on the group. (We do a lot of regrouping at turns/stop signs).
However it could be because of my fitness. Once I started doing that first group ride, I really started biking a lot more.
A nicer bike helps, but not even close to as much as getting in shape.
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