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Old 05-15-10, 10:43 PM
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For all you weight weenies....

So i know some of you spend 40-50 bucks per bottle cage to save weight.... just wanted to let you know i just paid $7.46 each for TWO of these....






Turns out, its at most a fraction of weight heavier than a $50 cage. Head to your wally world and see if they have any left. I got mine over 60% off an already steal of a price.
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Are they on sale? 28 grams is a pretty good weight if that's actually how much they weigh. Too bad they say Bell on them.
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who cares what they say... they're 8 buck... lol...

too bad my walmarts don't have those in stock... i ended up getting some aluminum zephars or something... they weight about the same... and the same price...


must go out of the la county to look for these to match my frame...
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Originally Posted by ptle View Post
Are they on sale? 28 grams is a pretty good weight if that's actually how much they weigh. Too bad they say Bell on them.
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Originally Posted by gumbii View Post
who cares what they say... they're 8 buck... lol...

too bad my walmarts don't have those in stock... i ended up getting some aluminum zephars or something... they weight about the same... and the same price...


must go out of the la county to look for these to match my frame...


Exactly. I didnt buy them because of the weight, since i would never spend more than 15 bucks on a bottle cage. I bought them because they look sweet, are lighter which can only be a good thing, and they were cheaper than the other cages for 9.99 there. You can make up the change in weight by filling your water bottle a hair higher, but they just look so cool, and match the carbon fiber on my seatstay and offset the orange a tad, making a really cool color scheme. And i get to feel faster to boot !
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Are they on sale? 28 grams is a pretty good weight if that's actually how much they weigh. Too bad they say Bell on them.
Nothing said they were on sale.... in fact, there was only one on the rack, the rest were buried among the scattered bike horns on the bottom shelf. I think they were all stupid and just wanted to get rid of them. and they actually weighed about 25 grams according to the scale, but with some error in the scale it could amount to a tad more.

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"carbon effect" painted plastic?

I'm weary of plastic cages.
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"carbon effect" painted plastic?

I'm weary of plastic cages.


It did say "featherlight carbon fiber construction" on the package
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Do you also remove the 'Bell' from your helmets? I know many of you wear them. Geez, you guys are like girls about some of this stuff
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Do you also remove the 'Bell' from your helmets? I know many of you wear them. Geez, you guys are like girls about some of this stuff
I did remove bell logo from my helmet. But I just don't like logos.
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In a hobby/sport that relies on logos being plastered over every inch of real estate, you are an exception.
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I dont care about the logo. If bell makes a good product, then why should it be hidden. Obviously if my derailleur had a bell logo on it....
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Does it hold a bottle securely on a bumpy road? In my opinion, that's the most important function of a bottle cage.
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It did say "featherlight carbon fiber construction" on the package
looks like carbon effect paint.
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It is carbon fiber. The carbon reflects with the weave. And plastic is more flexible than carbon fiber and would bend the most at thin spots. The whole cage barely flexes, and it flexes as a whole, not at thin points.
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if it was painted, they wouldn't've painted the inside of the cage...


clearly... not plastic...
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Why would anyone want bottle cages? You could save about 10gr on your bike by not mounting any. I even have the bottle cage mounting screws removed to save weight.

Sheeeshhh....
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Why would anyone want bottle cages? You could save about 10gr on your bike by not mounting any. I even have the bottle cage mounting screws removed to save weight.

Sheeeshhh....
Well some of our bodies require life in order to ride a bike. Just because you are made of dust doesnt mean we should all drop our water bottles to shave 2 seconds off our endurance rides.
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Every piece of bike equipment you buy at Wal-Mart (even the most expensive stuff they sell) is liable to be really, really ****ty, fail prematurely, break, fall off, or otherwise not work.

I bought a $25 Bell helmet there because my LBS was taking too long to restock theirs... well, it fit well, but despite the number of vents on the top it has ZERO ventilation. Reason? The vents are all too small and don't even open towards the front of the helmet, so while this might make it somewhat aero, it also means that about a liter of sweat falls off my head the second I take the helmet off. Also, it's goofy looking because the shell is huge and sits too high on my head.

Bought a Schwinn-made bottle and cage, and while there's nothing wrong with the cage, the bottle's top is sticky and doesn't open and close smoothly, and it's already totally chewed up because of my teeth... the cage/bottle combo may or may not be making a little noise, though. Might only be when the bottle is empty.

Bought a frame pump from Walmart...which works OK, except that the frame mount doesn't hold the pump securely, the handle is too pointed (major pain when filling tires), and there's no way to lock the pump handle down for storage... and this was the "good" pump they sold. The package said it was rated to 120... good luck with that. I couldn't get it past 95 without a monumental effort, and doing that caused me to tear my tube at the stem.

Bought a Presta road tube...which only cost $1 less than a Bontrager tube from an LBS, and the Presta tube was too short for my aero rims so I had to get a $1.25 Schrader adapter to get it to work. Woops.

Walmart sells tire patch kits... for $9... you can get a patch kit for $4 at an LBS, and the patches are the self-sticking kind.

I don't even want to guess about the quality of the lights and computers they sell there.
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It is carbon fiber. The carbon reflects with the weave. And plastic is more flexible than carbon fiber and would bend the most at thin spots. The whole cage barely flexes, and it flexes as a whole, not at thin points.
In that case, sounds like a good deal. As long as it holds your bottles in rough sections.

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if it was painted, they wouldn't've painted the inside of the cage...


clearly... not plastic...
oh... you'd be surprised...
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Originally Posted by baribari View Post
Every piece of bike equipment you buy at Wal-Mart (even the most expensive stuff they sell) is liable to be really, really ****ty, fail prematurely, break, fall off, or otherwise not work.

I bought a $25 Bell helmet there because my LBS was taking too long to restock theirs... well, it fit well, but despite the number of vents on the top it has ZERO ventilation. Reason? The vents are all too small and don't even open towards the front of the helmet, so while this might make it somewhat aero, it also means that about a liter of sweat falls off my head the second I take the helmet off. Also, it's goofy looking because the shell is huge and sits too high on my head.

Bought a Schwinn-made bottle and cage, and while there's nothing wrong with the cage, the bottle's top is sticky and doesn't open and close smoothly, and it's already totally chewed up because of my teeth... the cage/bottle combo may or may not be making a little noise, though. Might only be when the bottle is empty.

Bought a frame pump from Walmart...which works OK, except that the frame mount doesn't hold the pump securely, the handle is too pointed (major pain when filling tires), and there's no way to lock the pump handle down for storage... and this was the "good" pump they sold. The package said it was rated to 120... good luck with that. I couldn't get it past 95 without a monumental effort, and doing that caused me to tear my tube at the stem.

Bought a Presta road tube...which only cost $1 less than a Bontrager tube from an LBS, and the Presta tube was too short for my aero rims so I had to get a $1.25 Schrader adapter to get it to work. Woops.

Walmart sells tire patch kits... for $9... you can get a patch kit for $4 at an LBS, and the patches are the self-sticking kind.

I don't even want to guess about the quality of the lights and computers they sell there.
The only thing i will buy from wal mart is a bottle cage and a flasher for my commuter. A bottle cage serves a much simpler function than a pump or patch kits. Also, helmets are usually chosen for looks and ventilation, so if people like to sweat and dont think a wal mart helmet looks ridiculous, it is still going to serve the same purpose.
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i'm going to walmart to get that schwinn bag that goes behind the stem/steerer tube... it's half the price as the ones at a LFS and it has pockets all around, for my phone and keys... i just need to cut out the rubber schwinn logo and i'm good to go...

the aluminum cages i got look well made... if they fail, i'll get another 7 dollar bottle cage somewhere else... thugg lyfe...

the frame mounted pump was tricky to mount, i had to cut some plastic off the bracket... but it has a piece of velcro that grabs onto it so that's a plus... and i could put 100PSI with minimal effort and was 12 bucks...


when i look at stuff, i see if it's worth me getting at walmart or a LFS... if it's built aight, i'll probably get it... if there's a huge difference, i'll pay the extra 20-50% the LFS charges...
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The one I got was the $18 Zefail (Ironic name?) model. I can say that it IS light.

I would bet there's SOMETHING about that bag that is wrong with it, compared to the LBS-sold bag. That thing just might not become apparent until several months of use.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you almost NEVER save money by going with the cheapest option available. Always go for the mid-priced name brand item, unless you've got money to spend, in which case make sure you buy the RIGHT item for you...because a poorly-selected high-end item isn't going to be as good as a lower-priced item that's right for the job.


OTOH, the high-end-of-the-bargain brand can often be a surprisingly good deal (often better than the 'low-end-of-the-name brand)...but in those cases it's better not to buy sight-unseen, or at least without a solid return policy.
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The one I got was the $18 Zefail (Ironic name?) model. I can say that it IS light.

I would bet there's SOMETHING about that bag that is wrong with it, compared to the LBS-sold bag. That thing just might not become apparent until several months of use.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you almost NEVER save money by going with the cheapest option available. Always go for the mid-priced name brand item, unless you've got money to spend, in which case make sure you buy the RIGHT item for you...because a poorly-selected high-end item isn't going to be as good as a lower-priced item that's right for the job.


OTOH, the high-end-of-the-bargain brand can often be a surprisingly good deal (often better than the 'low-end-of-the-name brand)...but in those cases it's better not to buy sight-unseen, or at least without a solid return policy.
those are the aluminum cages i got... but i paid 7 bucks for them... sale..???


and i carefully checked both bags today from stiching and velcro, everything... i went to walmart first... then to a LBS... the LBS one was smaller, had -3 pockets, and was uglier IMO... the cheap schwinn wins... half the price, and it's lined with felt so i won't scratch my phone...


my saddle bag was from an LBS... i got a bontrager... twice as much, but worth every penny...
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Well some of our bodies require life in order to ride a bike. Just because you are made of dust doesnt mean we should all drop our water bottles to shave 2 seconds off our endurance rides.


Seriously though, I'm not a weight weenie. If I were, I'd be getting rid of some excess body weight to start from, and then start tearing the bike apart.
I ride a Giant OCR which weighs around 20lbs without bottle cages. Still need to find some time to get the bottle cage I have laying around repainted, as the carbon look paint it came with has been scuffed during a crash. I don't mind the extra weight the extra layer of paint brings with it either
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