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Why are Canadian Cyclists and Cervelo So Docile About 4 Quebec Cyclists Killed

Old 05-16-10, 11:22 AM
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Why are Canadian Cyclists So Docile About 4 Quebec Cyclists Killed

Four cyclists were killed this weekend in Montreal. A minimum of three were riding Cervelos. Cyclists are unbelievably docile about fellow cyclists getting killed and maimed. I am also amazed that Canadian cyclists just take this unwarranted slaughter in stride and do nothing. Canadian Cyclists just tolerate ridiculous coverage by the media and do nothing. At least cyclists in Miami did something when one cyclist got killed. Four cyclists get killed in Quebec and our fellow Canadian cyclists do nothing. Are our lives as cyclists not worth a sh1t?

Hopefully Cervelo will make a public statement next week.

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And what exactly should we Canadian's do???

Go find 3 SUV drivers and take them out...An eye for an eye...
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Yes, what do you expect canadians/Cervelo to do?

Start running drivers off the road until they are all satisfied?
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The problem with the current event was the driver pretty much got rid of all the competition. no one left to defend - anything.

This is going to sound harsh: Accidents will always happen and cyclist vs motorized vehicle will always be a more tragic ending for the cyclist

We cannot change physics.

Try to be precautionary and not reactionary - go out and lobby for some bike paths where they are needed
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I don't understand why drag Cervelo into this. When cyclists in the USA die trek, cannondale and specialized don't do anything.

Also, what caused the accident? The problem in Miami was that the driver was drunk, fled, and had about 18 or more traffic violations on his record along with being semi-famous which the media loves. The cyclist was also riding a Caad9 but Cannondale didn't do anything, nor were expected to.
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Look at the outpouring of disgust in Miami. Look at Quebec and you see nothing. Cervelo is a respected Canadian company. 3 out of the 4 dead were riding Cervelos. Maybe Cervelo could speak up in the next few days as a good will gesture for those that died riding their bikes. A few words to the media by Cervelo about cyclists having vehicular rights might be helpful.

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Originally Posted by pharding
Cervelo is a respected Canadian company. 3 out of the 4 dead were riding Cervelos.
And? Do vehicle manufactures usually respond when passengers in their vehicles get killed?

Maybe Cervelo could speak up as a good will gesture for those that died riding their bikes. A few words to the media by Cervelo about cyclists having vehicular rights might be helpful.
Even assuming your take is correct--which I don't--the accident happened this weekend. Do expect the Cervelo management to scramble and issue a special press release on Saturday or Sunday?
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I agree, what does Cervelo have to do with this? Your preoccupation with the company is surprising.
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Clearly, since an act of war has been perpetrated against them, Cervélo must form a coalition of anti-motor-terror bicycle manufacturers to invade the home turf of the company that built the pickup truck in Rougement and topple their regime, then install an interim cyclist government for the occupation.

I look forward in consternation to the inevitable post-5/14 world we'll have to live in.
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Good question pharding. Probably because we prefer malaise to action as road cyclists are poorly regarded in Canada. When a courier was run down in Toronto there was a significant protest but mainly by the critical mass types. I don't know if there is anything planned in Quebec or not but certainly, memorial services will take place first.

The press and general public are ignorant to the plight of cyclists as it not a big part of our culture. Now, if Zamboni's frequently ran down hockey players, action would be taken.

Education is required all round. Law makers and police need to be educated, the driving public needs to be educated and cyclists need to be educated. Thusfar, only lipservice is being paid to cycling safety.

Cervelo will stay clear as it really isn't their battle.
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Originally Posted by CyciumX
Accidents will always happen and cyclist vs motorized vehicle will always be a more tragic ending for the cyclist

We cannot change physics.
But you can quit referring to them as "accidents". That implies no fault, like a bolt of lightning or other random act of nature/god. It's not unreasonable to say that in 90% of collisions/mishaps, there was a causal event - typically driver negligence or incompetence - which makes it not an "accident".

An accident would be something like brake lines spontaneously rupturing, or a tire blowing which caused the automobile to lose control, or if a cyclist got a squirrel stuck in his front spokes that sent him over the handlebars and into the path of an oncoming vehicle.

Beyond that, to echo the other posters - Cervelo has nothing to do with this. No more than the manufacturer of the vehicle should apologize for the gross incompetence of the person behind the wheel of their product.
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More BS about Canadians being docile? WTF?
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Originally Posted by pharding
Look at the outpouring of disgust in Miami. Look at Quebec and you see nothing. Cervelo is a respected Canadian company. 3 out of the 4 dead were riding Cervelos. Maybe Cervelo could speak up in the next few days as a good will gesture for those that died riding their bikes. A few words to the media by Cervelo about cyclists having vehicular rights might be helpful.
Cervelo isn't that well known.
What is well known are how bad Quebec, Toronto and Vancouver drivers are.
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Okay... don't call it an accident.

This sums it up : Motor vehicles will always collide with cyclists and the cyclist will always get hurt physically, monetarily or mentally in excess of the vehicle.

By the way... when you see a dump and attempt to clean it up, don't leave your own... how 'bout you actually offer up some form of verbiage to negate the apparent misuse of "accident".
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Beyond that, to echo the other posters - Cervelo has nothing to do with this. No more than the manufacturer of the vehicle should apologize for the gross incompetence of the person behind the wheel of their product.
Well said and a good conclusion for this thread too.

There are active threads on this incident here in Road and in A&S (if you can stomach the VC crap). That is enough.

Closed.
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