Little help with my bars...
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Little help with my bars...
Hey all, how are you guys doing? As i've been starting to ride more, I have tried getting in the drop more frequently, however, I am not very comfortable in the drop because of their angle, I would say they are more of a 90 degree angle rather than a 45 which looks like it would be more effective. I have been professionally fit. Here is a pic, any recommendations on what kind of bars to pick up? Thanks...
Mine:
Compared to:
Mine:
Compared to:
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I'm not sure what you mean by 90 rather than 45, but chances are you just need to work on your back muscles and flexibility.
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Those bars are really just made to fit that way. Most likely intended for someone with their bars level with the saddle insteadof have some drop.
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Might want to checkout the FSA Omega bars. They're about $40 and have a shallow drop and short reach. I like them because it makes reaching for the shifters easier. There's a video review of them on competitive cyclist. GL
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I recently had bike magazines in two different languages on my coffee table, each with large compilation review articles for drop bars. There are a ridiculous number of different shapes out there, appealing to different hand/wrist/body geometries.
If I were you, I'd experiment by rotating the bars down slightly, and moving the brifters up an equal amount. This will necessitate unwrapping /rewrapping the bars. But you'll need to do that anyway if you buy new ones. Follow this by trying out friends' bikes, LBS bikes, until you find a shape that suits.
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Thanks for the responses, my strength and flexibility is fine. When I go down lower on the drops I'm pretty far away from the levers and I don't like that, I have to move my hand position considerably to brake and shift also there is not much to grab because there is relatively little flat room on these bars. I guess I'm essentially asking for recommendations on which bars to try out? The verticle drops simply do not work for my wrists/arms. What us the difference between compact and non compact bars?
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Compact bars usually have smaller forward sweep, and smaller drop, which means a less dramatic change when moving hand position from hoods to drops.
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BoodBianchi, you're measuring two different angles. Top image you're measuring behind the hoods, bottom image you're measuring in front of the hoods. This gives you a completely different angle. Besides that different bars have different angles. I can ride with a Pro bar, though the angle will differ from your (let's say) Easton bar.
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Thanks for the responses, my strength and flexibility is fine. When I go down lower on the drops I'm pretty far away from the levers and I don't like that, I have to move my hand position considerably to brake and shift also there is not much to grab because there is relatively little flat room on these bars.
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are you comfortable in the hoods?
the angles look okay, so maybe the stem is too long?
the angles look okay, so maybe the stem is too long?
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i think you just need to get used to it and learn to relax more in that position...
what hurts you or what makes you uncomfortable...?
what hurts you or what makes you uncomfortable...?
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I put in a 10mm longer stem to go with these bars.
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Don't agree at all with what has been said. Your problem has nothing at all to do with your flexibility or fit as suggested. Those bars are simply not meant to be angled up as high as you have them. They are designed so that the bottoms will be about parallel with the ground when positioned as intended. But you have them angled up way high so the tops are a bit more comfortable when riding in the hoods. This obviously makes the position in the drops awkward as you've experienced.
You want bars that are designed to have a flat top and smooth transition to STI hoods. These generally have a very tight radius bend. This will leave the angle in the drops in a much more manageable position and also reduce the reach to the levers from the drops. Off the top of my head the FSA Omega Compact, FSA Wing Pro Compact, Deda Supernatural, 3T Ergosum, 3T Ergonova, and Easton EC90 SLX3 all have the shape you are looking for.
You want bars that are designed to have a flat top and smooth transition to STI hoods. These generally have a very tight radius bend. This will leave the angle in the drops in a much more manageable position and also reduce the reach to the levers from the drops. Off the top of my head the FSA Omega Compact, FSA Wing Pro Compact, Deda Supernatural, 3T Ergosum, 3T Ergonova, and Easton EC90 SLX3 all have the shape you are looking for.
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Thanks for the responses, my strength and flexibility is fine. When I go down lower on the drops I'm pretty far away from the levers and I don't like that, I have to move my hand position considerably to brake and shift also there is not much to grab because there is relatively little flat room on these bars.
Are you looking for something more like this so you can have your hands on the angled part?
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By the way, what I did to get more angle and a bit more flat at the bottom, is rotate the bar forward a bit more. After that I moved the brifters upwards a bit more and rewrap the bar tape. Worked perfectly.
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Don't agree at all with what has been said. Your problem has nothing at all to do with your flexibility or fit as suggested. Those bars are simply not meant to be angled up as high as you have them. They are designed so that the bottoms will be about parallel with the ground when positioned as intended. But you have them angled up way high so the tops are a bit more comfortable when riding in the hoods. This obviously makes the position in the drops awkward as you've experienced.
You want bars that are designed to have a flat top and smooth transition to STI hoods. These generally have a very tight radius bend. This will leave the angle in the drops in a much more manageable position and also reduce the reach to the levers from the drops. Off the top of my head the FSA Omega Compact, FSA Wing Pro Compact, Deda Supernatural, 3T Ergosum, 3T Ergonova, and Easton EC90 SLX3 all have the shape you are looking for.
You want bars that are designed to have a flat top and smooth transition to STI hoods. These generally have a very tight radius bend. This will leave the angle in the drops in a much more manageable position and also reduce the reach to the levers from the drops. Off the top of my head the FSA Omega Compact, FSA Wing Pro Compact, Deda Supernatural, 3T Ergosum, 3T Ergonova, and Easton EC90 SLX3 all have the shape you are looking for.
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PRO bars are designed by shimano for shimano levers.
Shimano owns PRO, so it's natural that they work better with shimano STI levers.
Shimano owns PRO, so it's natural that they work better with shimano STI levers.
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Yes, I am looking for something like this, thought I had made it clear, thank you for all the responses though guys...
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I felt like you in the drops at times I went to a EASTON EC90 SLX3 bars and they fill really good to me.
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Take a look at the Ritchey bars.
The OEM bars on my bike were just like the first ones you pictured. I hate that shape, replaced them with some cheap Ritchey Comps. There's no good view on Ritchey's site, but Google gave me this view of the shape. The useful part of the drops is much longer, gives your hands much more space, the horizontal part is vestigial, and the angle is much shallower. I like them a lot.
The OEM bars on my bike were just like the first ones you pictured. I hate that shape, replaced them with some cheap Ritchey Comps. There's no good view on Ritchey's site, but Google gave me this view of the shape. The useful part of the drops is much longer, gives your hands much more space, the horizontal part is vestigial, and the angle is much shallower. I like them a lot.
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Might be an unpopular choice, but you may be a candidate for raising the hoods and dropping the bar.
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This. Bend your elbows more, and it'll put your hands in a better position relative to the shifters. If that doesn't work for you, then you should probably either get a higher stem (which I wouldn't do if you're happy with your position on the hoods) or different bars.
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This. Bend your elbows more, and it'll put your hands in a better position relative to the shifters. If that doesn't work for you, then you should probably either get a higher stem (which I wouldn't do if you're happy with your position on the hoods) or different bars.