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This has been done over and over but . . . Rol Race SL vs. Soul 3.0 vs. EA90 Aero

Old 05-18-10, 08:14 AM
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This has been done over and over but . . . Rol Race SL vs. Soul 3.0 vs. EA90 Aero

So the rear wheel that I JUST finished building (DT RR1.1 laced to 240) got taco'd last weekend because some IDIOT decided to cut me off after the finish of a crit and celebrate with his teammate rather then being predictable and ride through the turn and my rim had an unfortunate run in with a 6" curb that I had to bunny hop.

Anyways, I'm thinking it might be time for a new wheelset as I sit here looking at the wear indicators on my front wheel (mon chasseral) and knowing that I have to buy ANOTHER RR1.1 rim for the rear and get it built up again.

After a little research last night I decided that I'm going to try out some aero shoes rather than ultra lightweight I have narrowed it down to:

Rol Race SL - Sounds like an awesome wheel with great customer service and has gotten stellar reviews but is a little pricey at $620 shipped.

Easton EA90 Aero - Another very highly rated wheel that I might be able to get at cost. Probably wouldn't be in contention if I had to pay retail ($800).

Soul 3.0 - Heard good things and an attractive price ($365, $470 with upgraded hubs), but not name brand and a relatively small following in the US.

I've searched and read the forums for every single post concerning these wheels I can, but I'm still at a crossroads here. I'm really leaning towards the Rols but I know I could do a lot with the $250 I save if I get the Souls.

Thoughts? Opinions? Generic Caad-9 response?
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Old 05-18-10, 08:24 AM
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If those are the three choices,Rol every single time for me.Sean busted his ass to make me happy and I can't fault his wheels in the least. I've treated them like crap and they are doing great.
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Might want to look into Psimet. I got wheels with the same rims and spokes as those Rol's, but better hubs, for about the same cost.
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Originally Posted by SebastionMerckx View Post
If those are the three choices,Rol every single time for me.Sean busted his ass to make me happy and I can't fault his wheels in the least. I've treated them like crap and they are doing great.
Do you ride the Race SLs? I was just looking at the Volants as well as a cheaper alternative.
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Might want to look into Psimet. I got wheels with the same rims and spokes as those Rol's, but better hubs, for about the same cost.
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I have the easton ea90 aeros. I love them for everyday training/climbing wheels, I've had them for over 2 years now and haven't had any issues. I have a set of Neuvation 50mm carbon tubulars that I use for crits and they are a lot faster than the eastons. The neuvations are terrible for climbing though, ymmv.

FYI- The eastons can be had for around $400 if you look around. I got them at that price on bonktown (when it was still chainlove) but I've seen several places sell them for that price. The neuvations were around $600 as well, might want to look into it if you want a decent set of crit wheels.
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I have a pair of D'Huez . If you would like a cheaper alternative and want bomb proof,I highly recommend the Volants as well. You really can't go wrong with any wheelset he sells. What I would do if I were you is give him a call.He'll talk to you as long as you need to and help you make a decision...Also,he does special builds as well on request.
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Everyone raves about psimet, but could he please put some prices on his website? Or some sample build prices?
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Originally Posted by shiz702 View Post
I have the easton ea90 aeros. I love them for everyday training/climbing wheels, I've had them for over 2 years now and haven't had any issues. I have a set of Neuvation 50mm carbon tubulars that I use for crits and they are a lot faster than the eastons. The neuvations are terrible for climbing though, ymmv.

FYI- The eastons can be had for around $400 if you look around. I got them at that price on bonktown (when it was still chainlove) but I've seen several places sell them for that price. The neuvations were around $600 as well, might want to look into it if you want a decent set of crit wheels.
did you use the ea90s for crits at all? Thats mainly what I race and the majority of racing the wheels would see would be crits.
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce View Post
Everyone raves about psimet, but could he please put some prices on his website? Or some sample build prices?
The weight of the wheels as well.
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce View Post
Everyone raves about psimet, but could he please put some prices on his website? Or some sample build prices?
Because every quote he gives is an individual quote based on the needs/wants of the rider. He doesn't have "sample" wheels. He builds you the wheels you need/want. Just request a quote, he responds quick enough (although not always he quickest, he is too busy building wheels...) and has very competitive prices.
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anyone stepping up to bat for the soul 3.0?
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Originally Posted by MR6690 View Post
did you use the ea90s for crits at all? Thats mainly what I race and the majority of racing the wheels would see would be crits.
I did. The Neuvations are noticeably faster.
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Originally Posted by MR6690 View Post
anyone stepping up to bat for the soul 3.0?
I can step up for Sean and Soul as a company. I've put about 1000 miles on my Soul 2.0s since I got them at the end of January. At 190lbs I'm not the smallest guy out there and I can be pretty rough of my gear. So far they're holding up great and I couldn't be happier.
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Originally Posted by Imperturbable Ryuu Ichigo View Post
I dont like like any of them , i would rather save for a while and get Zipp's
1) have you ridden any of them?
2) have you ridden zipps?
3) do you realize you are talking about wheelsets in entirely different price ranges? Not everyone can justify spending $2,000 on bicycle wheels.
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Originally Posted by Imperturbable Ryuu Ichigo View Post
I dont like like any of them , i would rather save for a while and get Zipp's

I could buy zipps if I wanted to right now instead of the 3 choices I have laid out but the opportunity cost is a little too high for me. Also, denting two DT swiss hoops in as many months makes me nervous to invest in a wheelset that could conceivably last me 1 month.


I suppose someone had to say it though.
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Originally Posted by Imperturbable Ryuu Ichigo View Post
What is this?
the opportunity to do something else with $1400 given that I choose the next best choice (one of the three sets I outlined instead of zipps)
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Originally Posted by Imperturbable Ryuu Ichigo View Post
What is this?
Originally Posted by Imperturbable Ryuu Ichigo View Post
I have rode the Eastons. There good and all but i have also rode the Zipp's and they are soooo much better (IMHO) and yes , Zipp's aren't cheap. thats for sure! but if im thinking of spending 600-800 i would just stuff that back and keep saving knowing that ( even though it will take a while ) The Zipp's Will be worth it.

But if i HAD to choose one of the 3 above i would go the Easton's.
maybe you ought to save that $2000 and take a few classes to make yourself more attractive to employers... you are just a high school student, no?

as for the psimet wheels, i got a front wheel. the pricing is cheaper than the ksyrium elites. the weight is probably lighter or same as the ksyriums, but a lot stronger (24 sapim cx-ray spokes vs 18 spokes). the rim profile is 30mm vs the 22mm of the ksyrium. all in all, not bad

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If you guys want weights on the Psimet wheels, Bicycle Wheel Warehouse does a lot of the same builds, and has a weight calculator.

For the people asking about Psmiet prices, my honest guess is that he doesn't quote anything because his prices are too far below MSRP that he would get in some trouble. Either that or he is charging nothing over part cost for actually assembling the wheels and doesn't want people to take too much advantage of him. You've got to wait awhile because he's only one person, but on price I haven't seem anything in the USA that can beat him. But those are just my guesses from buying from him, and I've never met him or talked to him outside of our quick emails on the purchase. I think it's fitting that I've never seen a single dissatisfied customer of his on this board.
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after doing a little more research it looks like the Rol wheels use the same Kinlin rim that Psimet holds in such high regard and I know the Sapim spokes Rol uses are widely available.

I would assume that the Eastons probably use those Kinlins at least in the rear wheel (30mm depth). Looks like the only major differences between wheels are the house-brand hubs.
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after doing a little more research it looks like the Rol wheels use the same Kinlin rim that Psimet holds in such high regard and I know the Sapim spokes Rol uses are widely available.

I would assume that the Eastons probably use those Kinlins at least in the rear wheel (30mm depth). Looks like the only major differences between wheels are the house-brand hubs.
So why not get a wheelset built by psimet w/ the kinlin rim, sapim spokes, quality hubs and the correct spoke count/pattern for your weight/riding style?
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Originally Posted by Imperturbable Ryuu Ichigo View Post
Where the **** does that come from? I've been out of school for 5 years.
from your solecism and question regarding opportunity cost (which i almost took as a joke)

although I do apologize for making that incorrect assumption
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So why not get a wheelset built by psimet w/ the kinlin rim, sapim spokes, quality hubs and the correct spoke count/pattern for your weight/riding style?
I think that's probably the route I'm going to go. Emailed him earlier today.
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I think that's probably the route I'm going to go. Emailed him earlier today.
Let us know how they turn out. Handbuilts aren't always as blingolicious as factory build wheels, but they seem to offer a better value. I went the factory built route and now I regret it.
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roll with soul.
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