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Hi Ced,

I know this location is not near you but just wanted a suggestion.

We plan to land in Bordeaux in Sep, and then plan a 15 day tour. Any suggestions on where we can take a taxi to? Any small village where we can check in to a small hotel/B&B to assemble our bikes, leave our Tardis bags, and start our tour? will taxis take us to small outskirt subarbs/villages? Any bus services available?
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how did you manage to move there permanently? I thought immigration is tough these days.
Tourist visa's are granted almost automatically.. Long stay retirement visa almost as readily as long as you can show them the cash.. And that you don't need a job.. Business visa's are almost granted automatically after you show them a business plan..
Be sure and get the right visa, Americans ; because if you don't you wont be able to buy into their health care system .
.... Life is not that expensive in France compared to many American states and the health care is excellent when compared to US health care costs. Their system just might save you from going broke..
. Cost wise: With the exception of course of places such as parts of Provence and Paris..There you pay..
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Originally Posted by deepakvrao View Post
Hi Ced,

I know this location is not near you but just wanted a suggestion.

We plan to land in Bordeaux in Sep, and then plan a 15 day tour. Any suggestions on where we can take a taxi to? Any small village where we can check in to a small hotel/B&B to assemble our bikes, leave our Tardis bags, and start our tour? will taxis take us to small outskirt subarbs/villages? Any bus services available?
We did some riding about that area.. My riding plan was based upon the maps in Lonely Planets' "Cycling France." They have a whole section on the area about Bordeaux.. featuring wine towns surrounding Bordeaux. . I sort of liked the area south east of Bordeaux where there is a national forest offering great riding, yet near Bordeaux, the Perigord, and the Sauternes district.. Once you've seen the vintners about Bordeaux remember the Perigord is near offering some reasonable hill climbs and great scenery , & near the pre-historic caves of Lascaux.
. Why worry about taxi's .. buses.. Trains take you most everywhere.. If you can't get on a TGV the alternative is the some what slower Corrail system, which is quite bike friendly..
The train system, SNCF, is English friendly and will help you to figure out how to get to your location upon a train.. Much easier than putting your bikes on a bus..
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot View Post
Tourist visa's are granted almost automatically.. Long stay retirement visa almost as readily as long as you can show them the cash.. And that you don't need a job.. Business visa's are almost granted automatically after you show them a business plan..
Be sure and get the right visa, Americans ; because if you don't you wont be able to buy into their health care system .
.... Life is not that expensive in France compared to many American states and the health care is excellent when compared to US health care costs. Their system just might save you from going broke..
. Cost wise: With the exception of course of places such as parts of Provence and Paris..There you pay..
shucks. i like provence.
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We did some riding about that area.. My riding plan was based upon the maps in Lonely Planets' "Cycling France." They have a whole section on the area about Bordeaux.. featuring wine towns surrounding Bordeaux. . I sort of liked the area south east of Bordeaux where there is a national forest offering great riding, yet near Bordeaux, the Perigord, and the Sauternes district.. Once you've seen the vintners about Bordeaux remember the Perigord is near offering some reasonable hill climbs and great scenery , & near the pre-historic caves of Lascaux.
. Why worry about taxi's .. buses.. Trains take you most everywhere.. If you can't get on a TGV the alternative is the some what slower Corrail system, which is quite bike friendly..
The train system, SNCF, is English friendly and will help you to figure out how to get to your location upon a train.. Much easier than putting your bikes on a bus..

Thanks.

We are flying into Bordeaux, so only getting to our first village is what is worrying me. Need to get to a B&B where we can assemble our bikes as well as hope they keep our bike bags [foldable] till we return,.

How did you start your tour? Aah, I see that you live in France.
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shucks. i like provence.
It's difficult to find any part of France not worth riding.. I like Alsace, Provence, Languedoc, Loire, Poitou, Sauterne, Bretagne. Dordogne.
Maybe my favorite.. - The Luberon..

Originally Posted by deepakvrao View Post
Thanks.

We are flying into Bordeaux, so only getting to our first village is what is worrying me. Need to get to a B&B where we can assemble our bikes as well as hope they keep our bike bags [foldable] till we return,.

How did you start your tour? Aah, I see that you live in France.
M. Deep.. It's not a problem.. Just pick a town and contact the local tourist office. Can usually be done on the internet.. If you are All that worried pick up a phone card and call them in advance.. ( the tourist office.) they'll provide you with a list of b and b's..
Plus, there is an internet website that helps you find b and b's friendly to cyclists.. Just google , French b and b ( Gite) We've found some using the internet... A chain of hotels we've liked have been the "Logis," chain of hotels.. Usually quite nice and reasonable..
Should you be here in August. Plan ahead, b and b's can be booked way in advance.. Without adequate advance planning in August, you had better bring a tent or maybe you'll find yourselves sleeping under the stars..Because the whole country seems, "Complete. " full.
On rare occasion, we've had problems with bikes and b and b's .. A couple owners acted as if my bikes would contaminate their beautiful rooms.. And they had no garage, so I had to go out and buy a chain and lock in order to secure it to a tree out in the rain..
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I am going to be in Pau for the transfer night of the tdf. Me and my mate (we are both 20 years old) want to get out to the top of Tourmalet. What is the best way to get out there?
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Going to Greece is great, but I'd rather be going to France. The south of France.
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i lived in south of france when i was a kid. that makes me almost french.
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i lived in south of france when i was a kid. that makes me almost french.
I lived in northern NJ. That almost makes me dumb enough for BF.
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Where about in the south France were you living Coasting ???
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I'm going to smuggle my bicycle into Greece this August. It will be cleverly hidden inside a soft case bicycle transport bag that Continental will charge me $100 each way to check through.



Stupid airlines.
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Where about in the south France were you living Coasting ???

Near Marseille. I went back there couple years ago for a holiday. Lovely. Too many lovely places in France.
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Near Marseille. I went back there couple years ago for a holiday. Lovely. Too many lovely places in France.
It seems pretty cool I am glad you enjoyed it. Any plan to cycle around here again ?
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I'm starting to think Greece is not so much a part of Europe as Central America based on its culture and politics.
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I'm going to smuggle my bicycle into Greece this August. It will be cleverly hidden inside a soft case bicycle transport bag that Continental will charge me $100 each way to check through.



Stupid airlines.
You are going to an incredible country. First class scenery . I liked the area around Delfi for cycling . .. Great hills and wide roads..
But, the motorists elsewhere were insane. Particularly in the Peloponnese.. Google auto safety in europe, should you not believe us.. We told the taxi drivers in Athens we were going to drive about the Peloponnese.. They all but called us nuts.. You'll see. Be careful.. And I saw very few cyclists. The one group I did see did not look to be professionals. But, I could not help but notice.. They had a motorcycle escort both ahead and behind the peloton .
Other than crazy traffic. It was an incredible trip..
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I'm starting to think Greece is not so much a part of Europe as Central America based on its culture and politics.
Headlines are not always reality.. I've seen Mexico and it's poverty; Greece is no Mexico.
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Originally Posted by Cedfromfrance View Post
It seems pretty cool I am glad you enjoyed it. Any plan to cycle around here again ?
Now that's an idea! I'll have to start planning it.
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Now that's an idea! I'll have to start planning it.
You should my friend !! Especially since the Euro is very weak right now ... It won't last
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I'm going to smuggle my bicycle into Greece this August. It will be cleverly hidden inside a soft case bicycle transport bag that Continental will charge me $100 each way to check through.

Stupid airlines.
one hundred bucks.. You could do worse. Is not Delta charging 250 dollars.?. Is it a folder. ?. Good luck.
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Arrived in France. I was worried that since I don't have a road bike out here I was going to lose all the good progress I was making back in the US. However, my brother in law has two city/hybrid/cruiser type bikes that we ride to Geneva everyday for work. They have permanently flat tires, the breaks don't work all that great, the handle bars wrap clear around and it's only 16 km into Geneva, but atleast I'm still using my legs! Did a little ride in the hills outside Annecy this weekend, again, only short, but good hills! wish I had my road bike....
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heading to Paris this week for a few days. advice?
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Just 'finalized' my Antwerpen -> Basel trip starting early July. Unfortunately, I'll be in meetings while the TdF zips by.

Oh, well.
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Greece is no Mexico.
It's no Germany either. Sort of halfway between. My parents live there 4-5 months annually. You have to bribe somebody to get anything done.

By the way, if you're renting a car in Greece, good luck trying to rent one with an automatic transmission. Very difficult. I can drive our rental stick shift car, but my wife won't be able to. Oh well.
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What we noticed at the EuropaCar. You can not fully insure a rental car in Greece. At least at Europcar.. No matter what policy you buy , it will not cover bumpers or lights.
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