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Cheap carbon complete bikes, are they worth it?

Old 05-20-10, 07:19 PM
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Cheap carbon complete bikes, are they worth it?

If this gets asked a lot, forgive me. I did search, but the search terms have a lot of room for error. Anyway, here's my question. I've been waiting (and waiting and waiting) to find the perfect craigslist deal, and I'm getting impatient. So, with cash in hand (about $2000) I figure I have 3 options:

1) continue to wait for the dream bike—full carbon, dura-ace/record, just the right size and in like-new condition (I know, keep dreaming, right)

2) get one of the bikesdirect motobecane carbon bikes like this one, with Dura-ace even! It really doesn't make sense that it would be that cheap, as the gruppo itself seems to generally retail for about that price. The low price makes me wary.

3) get something aluminum with lesser components

Anyone have any experience with these cheap bikes? Advice? Thanks all.
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A few people in my club have the cheap carbon bikes from Performance and they are happy with them. Those bikes sometimes go on sale for under $1500 built up with Ultegra components. If you buy from a local Performance store, they will help you with sizing and fitting and the bike will be ready to ride when you pick it up.
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"the low price makes you wary" is like whispering sweet nothings into the sales/marketing reps at specialized/cannondale/giant/etc/etc's ears

retail on the DA is NOT what the oems pay for truckloads of the stuff. the bike is just fine

If you want a shiny new bike in pristine condition off CL, I'm guessing you're not going to be happy with the motobecane name. buy the nicest tarmac you can afford and be done with it.
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Originally Posted by kudude
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"the low price makes you wary" is like whispering sweet nothings into the sales/marketing reps at specialized/cannondale/giant/etc/etc's ears

retail on the DA is NOT what the oems pay for truckloads of the stuff. the bike is just fine

If you want a shiny new bike in pristine condition off CL, I'm guessing you're not going to be happy with the motobecane name. buy the nicest tarmac you can afford and be done with it.
+1 on the Tarmac, bought a 2006 4yrs ago..best bike I've ever owned!
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I don't think you will be disappointed with the BD bike.
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Originally Posted by ptle
I don't think you will be disappointed with the BD bike.
Very doubtful that the BD frame (engineering, ride quality & handling) will approach the performance of the Tarmac...
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I bought a 2009 Scott CR-1 with all Ultegra + Ksyrium wheels for $2100.
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Originally Posted by RiPHRaPH
I bought a 2009 Scott CR-1 with all Ultegra + Ksyrium wheels for $2100.
Scotts are nice..get great rider reviews!
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Originally Posted by RiPHRaPH
I bought a 2009 Scott CR-1 with all Ultegra + Ksyrium wheels for $2100.
+1. I bought a 2010 Scott CR1 Team with 105 (plenty good enough for me) for $2K.
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Originally Posted by Tom Pedale
Very doubtful that the BD frame (engineering, ride quality & handling) will approach the performance of the Tarmac...
that doesn't mean the OP can't be happy with a BD bike.
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Once thing I never noticed until recently: PedalForce does custom bike build kits, so you can pick and choose what you want. Might want to look into it. The component prices looked pretty good.
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a lot of local guys ride rossetti bikes and they all seem to like them, a lot race on them as well from cat5 to pro1/2. https://www.rossettibike.com/store/in...d&productId=78 beware, the site has some annoying music and bad spelling but the product is good.
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Originally Posted by Yaniel
that doesn't mean the OP can't be happy with a BD bike.
Or one of the CC deals on a BMC.
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Originally Posted by Tom Pedale
Very doubtful that the BD frame (engineering, ride quality & handling) will approach the performance of the Tarmac...
bull****.

coming from someone who owns a tarmac, I'd say you're biased. I own neither a tarmac or a moto.

a recent racing forum poster broke his nice carbon bike and got a caad9 to replace it. I think his review was something to the effect of "won't be dropping a lot of coin on a frame in the future". something to consider
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Originally Posted by Brightwork
Or one of the CC deals on a BMC.
no, too many BMCs in the wild already. stick with BD!
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Originally Posted by Yaniel
no, too many BMCs in the wild already. stick with BD!
I've never seen a BD bike in the wild, but I have seen a number of BMCs. You have a point.
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Originally Posted by Brightwork
I've never seen a BD bike in the wild, but I have seen a number of BMCs. You have a point.
That's kind of the reason I wonder about the BD bikes, I too have never seen one in the wild. If nobody comes in here with horror stories, though, I might get the Motobecane. I have nothing against the name, I just don't know their record for quality.
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Afriend of mine has a bd bike and he loves it...
2k is a good amount to work with... Keep and eye out on eBay too..
There are some good deals to be had!
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Originally Posted by Yaniel
that doesn't mean the OP can't be happy with a BD bike.
True...
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Originally Posted by LoRoK
That's kind of the reason I wonder about the BD bikes, I too have never seen one in the wild. If nobody comes in here with horror stories, though, I might get the Motobecane. I have nothing against the name, I just don't know their record for quality.
lots of 'em being raced in the collegiate races
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Originally Posted by LoRoK
That's kind of the reason I wonder about the BD bikes, I too have never seen one in the wild. If nobody comes in here with horror stories, though, I might get the Motobecane. I have nothing against the name, I just don't know their record for quality.
They don't actually design the bikes, they just buy the parts and frames that somebody else has designed (and perhaps sold under "famous" names) and sell them for great prices. Somebody spent a lot of time and money to design those Motobecane frames - it just wasn't BD or "Motobecane".
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I got to see an Origin-8 Lactic Acid CF frame yesterday and they are actually very nice for for the money. The demo bike they had built up in the store had full Rival with Xero-lite wheels and heavy platform pedals and the bike weighed 17lbs. Had a very beefy BB area as well. The owner said MSRP for the frames were $1599 but since he only sold them on an order basis he doesn't charge the full msrp and instead around $1300. Maybe there is an LBS around you that carries them. I have not found much info on their frames but maybe there are some people here that have.

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One thing I noticed about the BD carbon bikes (Moto) is that the warranty only covers the frame for 1 year. The other big name makers I looked up covered theirs for lifetime (Giant, Trek, etc). (Of course not covering crashes, but if a crack started developing etc.)
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Originally Posted by brbbiking
One thing I noticed about the BD carbon bikes (Moto) is that the warranty only covers the frame for 1 year. The other big name makers I looked up covered theirs for lifetime (Giant, Trek, etc). (Of course not covering crashes, but if a crack started developing etc.)
o rly?
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Originally Posted by kudude
o rly?
I don't know the specifics of what they cover. The text for Trek reads "The bicycle frame, except the fork and the Session model, for the lifetime of original owner". Whereas for Motobecane, it says 1 year. So I'm just saying Motobecane covers whatever they're going to cover, for less time.
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