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climbing ....high cadance or not ?

Old 05-22-10, 03:58 PM
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climbing ....high cadance or not ?

so i have a big race coming up and it has a huge steep hill in it , i pre rode the course the other sundany and we were doing diffrent efforts up the hill and there was just tha plain sprint in a small gear and then we did one in the big ring and it felt almost easyer to do and it was quicker ...but what im getting at is is it better to climb in a lower gear and spin or a bigger gear and just pu out more power**********???
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depends.
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Higher cadence is better.
Just do the climb 53x11 at 120rpm and you shouldnt have any problems winning this race
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I'd say it depends on the length and the pace that the rest of the riders are keeping. If done properly, pedaling standing is the fastest and won't take much more power. I've been able to put out slightly more power, on average, doing a 2-mile climbing interval standing, with an average cadence of about 65, than I did while pedaling seated at an average cadence of 87. The trick to standing is to use your weight and rest your quads on the climb.

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Originally Posted by DaveSSS View Post
I'd say it depends on the length and the pace that the rest of the riders are keeping. If done properly, pedaling standing is the fastest and won't take a much more power. I've been able to put out slightly more power, on average, doing a 2-mile climbing interval standing, with an average cadence of about 65, than I did while pedaling seated at an average cadence of 87. The trick to standing is to use your weight and rest your quads on the climb.
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Originally Posted by DaveSSS View Post
I'd say it depends on the length and the pace that the rest of the riders are keeping. If done properly, pedaling standing is the fastest and won't take a much more power. I've been able to put out slightly more power, on average, doing a 2-mile climbing interval standing, with an average cadence of about 65, than I did while pedaling seated at an average cadence of 87. The trick to standing is to use your weight and rest your quads on the climb.
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Originally Posted by bismillah View Post
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? Please enlighten us.
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Originally Posted by bismillah View Post
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? Please enlighten us.
Please do indeed.
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depends.
Was going to make the same comment.
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Originally Posted by botto View Post
depends.
I couldn't agree more. If you get a bad case of the Hershey squirts, you'll be glad you're wearing them.
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Like a lot of people said, it depends.

If it's a short hill, a fast paced race, or you're sitting in the back or middle of the pack you'll probably have to stand a few times to not get dropped.

While climbing, it's more efficient to sit down and spin (at your normal pace). It's nice to get up out of the saddle and stretch if you get tired. Getting out of the saddle can also give you a short boost in speed, but you most likely won't be able to hold it for long.
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Originally Posted by botto View Post
depends.


wow, not only insightful, but helpful................................................................. not
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Everyone is different.... look at history's best climbers and you will see a wide variety of styles (I like Pantani out of the saddle but in the drops), so when all is said and done you need to find what works best for you as an individual.

IMO, high cadence is extremely overrated. Something tells me that if LA did not adopt the style neither would half of the "wannabes". I seem to drop or hang with plenty of folks when the road turns up by simply turning over the peddles a little slower in the big ring. I can't help but laugh when I see someone bouncing on their seat in an attempt to maintain some outrageous cadence, and for what?

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Originally Posted by Romans8:28 View Post
Everyone is different.... look at history's best climbers and you will see a wide variety of styles (I like Pantani out of the saddle but in the drops), so when all is said and done you need to find what works best for you as an individual.

IMO, high cadence is extremely overrated. Something tells me that if LA did not adopt the style neither would half of the "wannabes". I seem to drop or hang with plenty of folks when the road turns up by simply turn over the peddles a little slower in the big ring. I can't help but laugh when I see someone bouncing on their seat in an attempt to maintain some outrageous cadence, and for what?
Good luck with that on a real climb...
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Originally Posted by kimconyc View Post
Good luck with that on a real climb...
Thanks,

Never been on one of "those" yet... All of my riding to date has been on a trainer with this really cool simulator screen mounted on my basement wall
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? Please enlighten us.
gator fan = florida = what mountains?
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you can put out the same power with both high and low cadence. it just does different things to the body. do what feels right.
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Originally Posted by Romans8:28 View Post
Everyone is different.... look at history's best climbers and you will see a wide variety of styles (I like Pantani out of the saddle but in the drops), so when all is said and done you need to find what works best for you as an individual.

IMO, high cadence is extremely overrated. Something tells me that if LA did not adopt the style neither would half of the "wannabes". I seem to drop or hang with plenty of folks when the road turns up by simply turning over the peddles a little slower in the big ring. I can't help but laugh when I see someone bouncing on their seat in an attempt to maintain some outrageous cadence, and for what?
I'm with you on this one. On my geared bike, I always tried to keep the cadence the same, no matter if I was climbing or descending. I've been riding a singlespeed almost exclusively since last fall, with a 79.1 gear inch combo, and the slower cadence on climbs keeps my legs fresh once I'm at the top. My city has some massive hills, so it's not like I'm pedaling around Florida or Kansas.
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i like to get up inclines as fast as possible when possible, seems to make me less fatigued and the legs don't burn as much, i used to go with a higher cadence seated and could do pretty good, on my last ride i used a different technique, went to the drops came out of the seat gained some momentum prior to the incline stayed in the big ring and tugged on the drops with each down pedal and powered up the hill, this new technique was fantastic for me!! at the top i might be out of breath but my legs weren't tired and i could get my breath back fairly quickly

from what i've read everything just seems to say it depends, there's no real best position, whatever works for you...and that the efficiencies gained from one technique also mean other efficiencies are lost so just about every technique is equal (i.e. standing vs sitting)

if the incline just keeps going then i'll do a combo of standing/sitting/praying/cussing
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Find out what works best for you. One day climb the hill as fast as you can using a high cadence. Another day try it using a slower cadence.
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I shift down to my smallest gear and spin that @ 50rpm.
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Originally Posted by Jancouver View Post
Just do the climb 53x11 at 120rpm and you shouldnt have any problems winning this race
Do it....

...You wont.
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
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That'll cost ya
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Originally Posted by rangerdavid View Post
wow, not only insightful, but helpful................................................................. not
thank you for your helpful contribution to the topic at hand.
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