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What's with all the Scat haters?

Old 05-26-10, 06:57 AM
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What's with all the Scat haters?

Most of the stuff is pretty nice and you can buy the same products at a lower price. What's wrong with this equation so far?

Enlighten me.
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Old 05-26-10, 07:01 AM
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Ignore them.

Ride what you like.

Like what you ride.

Keep the rubber side down.

Disclaimer: I bought a BD bike and like it, so I obviously have no sense of taste or style when it comes to bikes.
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Old 05-26-10, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Phantoj View Post
Nice copy from the LA thread.
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Old 05-26-10, 07:27 AM
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personally think they are fugly
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I like the lettering scheme, and prefer caps to lower case letters. Take the letters off and I still like the frame.
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i just ordered some scat sunglasses, good value and they look pretty good. I wasn't into the frames until I saw your MM. Granted it probably looks that good because of the size, but it's a bad ass looking bike, especially for the money. I'll probably pick one up if I wreck the BMC.
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I think its kinda like buying a generic house brand product when you go shopping at the supermarket. Looks the same on the box, it's cheaper, but just doesn't have the same taste as the original. The frame is probably the same quality as the big brands but that lettering just looks plain awful in my opinion. I wanna say it looks so 60's. I think those stripes around the logo are just odd and go against the flow and angles of the overall look of the frame. I'm not hating on them, some people like em, so more power to em. Just trying to give you a perspective from the other side as to why there's a chuckle when someone mentions Scattante. Ride what you like.

My hate is with Performance/Nashbar and their tax, shipping policies, "discounts", out of stocks, and why it takes 10 working days to have a package delivered to me.
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Absolutely nothing is wrong with their frames. They are your quintessential cheap "house" frame. I own both the XRL cross and the XRL TT aluminum frames. For what it's worth, the former was made in Taiwan and the latter in China. In both cases, it was just so I could cheaply start racing specialty races ('cross and time trials, respectively). I bought both of the bikes as framesets for about $300, and built the bikes up mostly out of components from my parts bin. I have gradually upgraded both bikes, especially the cross bike. Neither one of them is an outstanding ride, but the frames do their job of keeping the wheels together (the 'cross bike has two seasons of racing on it), and when I am ready to replace the framesets with something better, it's a pretty easy swap.
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Originally Posted by midgetmaestro View Post
Nice copy from the LA thread.
sorry, didn't see that.
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sorry, didn't see that.
no problem
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Absolutely nothing is wrong with their frames. They are your quintessential cheap "house" frame. I own both the XRL cross and the XRL TT aluminum frames. For what it's worth, the former was made in Taiwan and the latter in China. In both cases, it was just so I could cheaply start racing specialty races ('cross and time trials, respectively). I bought both of the bikes as framesets for about $300, and built the bikes up mostly out of components from my parts bin. I have gradually upgraded both bikes, especially the cross bike. Neither one of them is an outstanding ride, but the frames do their job of keeping the wheels together (the 'cross bike has two seasons of racing on it), and when I am ready to replace the framesets with something better, it's a pretty easy swap.
This is exactly the correct perspective. A few year back, I bought an $199 XRL comp frame and fork to quickly build up a bike, then replaced it with a better frame. However, I liked the Scat enough to build it up again with yet more parts and ride it all the time. A scat is basically 95-100% the same as a brand name bike in terms of performance, but with only about 30% the cost and prestige. If that bothers you, then you are free to spend more money on something with a more fashionable sticker on the downtube.
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The name is the problem. What were they thinking?
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About the only thing negative is that when and if you go to sell the bike, you aren't going to get that much for it. Whereas a Bianchi or Cervelo or Look, Or, Ahem, BMC will hold it's value a lot better. But then again, you've already paid two or three times more for the name as opposed to the Scattante. 6 of one...
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fyi Scattante bikes= Fuji bikes
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Originally Posted by popeye View Post
The name is the problem. What were they thinking?

Well, in Italian it means quick or nimble. How is it any different then a Specialized Allez? I agree the name is kinda lame but people hate the name only because it is a house brand. If Colnago had a line of Scattante most of you would whack off to want to owning one. It gets old hearing the same thing. By the way the Scat beats a lot of people every weekend.
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Maybe people would feel better if it was called a Scafuji.
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Scat means poo..... sure you want to call those bikes "scat"?
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About the only thing negative is that when and if you go to sell the bike, you aren't going to get that much for it. Whereas a Bianchi or Cervelo or Look, Or, Ahem, BMC will hold it's value a lot better. But then again, you've already paid two or three times more for the name as opposed to the Scattante. 6 of one...
My scat F&F cost me $200. Even if I sold it for $1, my total loss ($199) will still be way less than if I had bought an $X,000 Cervelo and sold it used.
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Scat = crap (literally)
world's dumbest brand name
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Originally Posted by midgetmaestro View Post
Most of the stuff is pretty nice and you can buy the same products at a lower price. What's wrong with this equation so far?

Enlighten me.
In my experience, Scat is not "the same products at a lower price". Scat gives you lower quality products at a lower price. Many of these products are "good enough" if you want to save some money.

I would much rather by a Scat bike than a BD bike, since Performance stores will help you with fitting and sizing and the bike will be competently assembled and ready to ride when you take it home. Assuming you have a Performance store nearby, of course.
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well, similar to Motobecane, I don't think most people find fault with their frame, but with their pseudo propaganda advertisement claims and occasionally poor customer service(I've seen pics of greatly damaged boxes/frames/components due to poor packaging/shipping and how people have had difficulty getting replacement frames).

now some people will scream TAIWANESE FRAMES etc, but few frames are made in Italy/USA/France anymore, so I don't think that is a big deal so long as if you notice a fault you can send it back.

I very nearly bought a Kestrel RT800 from BD, but I just didn't want to deal with their customer service department, but if you don't mind, I think the majority of their bikes are great deals for acceptable frames and components.
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In my experience, Scat is not "the same products at a lower price". Scat gives you lower quality products at a lower price. Many of these products are "good enough" if you want to save some money.

I would much rather by a Scat bike than a BD bike, since Performance stores will help you with fitting and sizing and the bike will be competently assembled and ready to ride when you take it home. Assuming you have a Performance store nearby, of course.
How many Scatt's have you owned and what happened to them?
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I like those bikes. Great value. I just happend to go w/Fuji because I felt it would have a little better resale and it's still a good value.
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Originally Posted by chefxian View Post
Well, in Italian it means quick or nimble. How is it any different then a Specialized Allez? I agree the name is kinda lame but people hate the name only because it is a house brand. If Colnago had a line of Scattante most of you would whack off to want to owning one. It gets old hearing the same thing. By the way the Scat beats a lot of people every weekend.
you completely missed his point.
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