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Help picking out an aluminum bike

Old 05-26-10, 11:20 AM
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Help picking out an aluminum bike

I'm trying to decide between getting one of these bikes



Cannondale CAAD9 5, Shimano 105, $1499.00




Trek 2.3. Shimano 105, 1699.99



Pinarello FP1, Shimano 105, $1950.00



I'm new to cycling and I'm training for a century ride. (My eventual goal is to do a full Ironman, for which I'll buy a second bike for that) I'm looking for a strong bike that can take a few bumps and not get beat up while I train, as well as be comfortable enough to ride for a 100 miles. I also would like the bike to last for a few years before going soft (as I've read carbon frames can) and I've read that getting an aluminum bike will last much longer then a carbon frame. My budget tops out around $2000 or so. I also need to the bike to have a Red, White and Black theme. (I'm being "sponsored" in my goal, long story short, I teach martial arts and my training for a 100 mile bike ride and then an Ironman is good motivation for the students). Which bike should I go for? Are there any other options I haven't seen? Please help!

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If you want to do centuries the CAAD9 is not the bike for that so stay far away. And also carbon frames don't go "soft", so I don't know where you read that mumbo jumbo. The Pinarello is overpriced for what you get because it's a "Pinarello" so that leaves the Trek. Other than that also look at the following bikes:

Fuji Roubaix ACR 1.0 (get a red saddle and bar tape)


Cannondale Synapse Carbon 5 (red saddle and bar tape again)


REI has the Synapse on sale right now for less than your budget and it would be the bike I would go with above all others.
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If you plan to do triathlons, you could get one bike to do both: Cervelo S1. It's a little bit more than you were thinking, but not much more. I got it for $2100 and love it. I also have a Cannondale Synapse, which a little more comfortable, that I love too. Both are alloy.

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I have been very happy with my Fuji Roubaix 1.0. Similar to the ACR above, just no carbon stays or seat posts. SRAM Rival except the brakes. I have not ridden a full century on it yet, but have done several rides over 60 miles, no complaints.

I waited for a 20% off sale at Performance, and got it for about a grand before applying team points.
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The darn Ridley compact at CC dude...!!!!
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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
If you want to do centuries the CAAD9 is not the bike for that so stay far away. And also carbon frames don't go "soft", so I don't know where you read that mumbo jumbo. The Pinarello is overpriced for what you get because it's a "Pinarello" so that leaves the Trek. Other than that also look at the following bikes:

Fuji Roubaix ACR 1.0 (get a red saddle and bar tape)


Cannondale Synapse Carbon 5 (red saddle and bar tape again)


REI has the Synapse on sale right now for less than your budget and it would be the bike I would go with above all others.
how would you know this? i've raced many long rr's including on gravel roads and regularly ridden >250 mi/week on a CAAD9. and yes, this includes rides over 100 mi. it's a very comfortable bike frame if fit properly.
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The Pin is a GREAT bike and not the same old ***** that everyone else rides.
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I also think you are making a mistake by excluding carbon bikes because you are afraid they might break, especially if your primary goal is long distance, comfortable riding. Carbon is probably exactly what you are looking for. I have 20,000 very comfortable miles on my current carbon bike and it hasn't broke yet.

The Cannondale Synapse is a pretty good suggestion for the upper end of your price range (there are several good choices). If I was going on a century ride and if I had to choose between a CAAD9 and a Synapse Carbon, it would be a no-brainer and I have spent lots of time on a CAAD9.
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Originally Posted by EKCooper View Post
If you plan to do triathlons, you could get one bike to do both: Cervelo S1. It's a little bit more than you were thinking, but not much more. I got it for $2100 and love it. I also have a Cannondale Synapse, which a little more comfortable, that I love too. Both are alloy.[/IMG]

+1. No need to buy two bikes as the Cervelo S1 will fill both roles nicely. See a review of the bike here.
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Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
how would you know this? i've raced many long rr's including on gravel roads and regularly ridden >250 mi/week on a CAAD9. and yes, this includes rides over 100 mi. it's a very comfortable bike frame if fit properly.
Just because it is comfortable for you in long distances it does not mean it will be comfortable for everyone. The CAAD9 is not a comfort frame so why should the OP take a gamble with it when he can get something like the Synapse which is. The CAAD9 is not the end all be all even though people around here want it to be.
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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
If you want to do centuries the CAAD9 is not the bike for that so stay far away.
that is far from the truth for most riders.
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Old 05-26-10, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
Just because it is comfortable for you in long distances it does not mean it will be comfortable for everyone. The CAAD9 is not a comfort frame so why should the OP take a gamble with it when he can get something like the Synapse which is. The CAAD9 is not the end all be all even though people around here want it to be.
just because it's not comfortable for you doesn't mean isn't for everyone. The goal of 100 mile ride doesn't mean the OP needs a comfort frame, 100 miles isn't even a very long ride in the grand scheme of things.
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Originally Posted by Yaniel View Post
that is far from the truth for most riders.
So what happens 3 months from now after the OP buys his CAAD9 and starts doing longer and longer rides and finds out that the CAAD9 is not as comfortable as he initially thought from the 15 min. test ride on the parking lot? Like I said he may or may not find it comfortable but when he specifically stated that he wants a bike for centuries why steer him for something that has a 50/50 chance of being for him when he has other options that have more of a 90% chance of being right for him. If the OP called Cannondale and told them exactly what he said on his post would they recommend a CAAD9 or a Synapse? This will be the guy's first bike yet let's recommend him one of the stiffest and more aggressive aluminum frames out there.
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Originally Posted by Yaniel View Post
just because it's not comfortable for you doesn't mean isn't for everyone. The goal of 100 mile ride doesn't mean the OP needs a comfort frame, 100 miles isn't even a very long ride in the grand scheme of things.
You are completely missing the point of what I am saying.
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Originally Posted by SkinnyLegs View Post
+1. No need to buy two bikes as the Cervelo S1 will fill both roles nicely. See a review of the bike here.
Wow, that's a pretty good and comprehensive review.
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CAAD-9 not comfortable?

40 year ols guy. 210 pounds. Biked a lot in college. Bought a new 2010 CAAD9-5 two months ago. No previous road bike experience although tons of mountain biking ON the road.

Just completed a 72 mile ride on the CAAD9 on Sunday. Zero discomfort. Bike is stock. Completely. I don't know how great the carbon bikes are but I don't think I need it. I climb tons of hills as I ride into the mountains and that compact crank and the stiff aluminum are AWESOME! I can't imagine if a frame flexed under me. It would totally unnerve me.

I'm down 15 pounds already and just did a quick 30 miler for lunch on the CAAD. It rocks for both long and short rides. I think way too much is made about which bike is most comfortable and within reason you could make most bikes fit a couple of roles with minor adjustments for the everyman. If you're a tri guy, or race crits, or tour all year at 80 miles a day well then you need a specialty bike.

Dude, the CAAD-9 is the pinacle of aluminum road bike design. There is no better and I don't think anybody will argue the merits of that statement. It's what they've done for 30 years.

Also, I don't personally like Trek at all. Wife has one and likes it but me, not so much.

Good luck with whatever you choose. I'm telling you I'm a new guy and I've got 1200 miles on my CAAD-9 in less than two months and couldn't be happier.
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doesn't matter. buy the one you can ride this afternoon
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Originally Posted by Accordion View Post
40 year ols guy. 210 pounds. Biked a lot in college. Bought a new 2010 CAAD9-5 two months ago. No previous road bike experience although tons of mountain biking ON the road.

Just completed a 72 mile ride on the CAAD9 on Sunday. Zero discomfort. Bike is stock. Completely. I don't know how great the carbon bikes are but I don't think I need it. I climb tons of hills as I ride into the mountains and that compact crank and the stiff aluminum are AWESOME! I can't imagine if a frame flexed under me. It would totally unnerve me.

I'm down 15 pounds already and just did a quick 30 miler for lunch on the CAAD. It rocks for both long and short rides. I think way too much is made about which bike is most comfortable and within reason you could make most bikes fit a couple of roles with minor adjustments for the everyman. If you're a tri guy, or race crits, or tour all year at 80 miles a day well then you need a specialty bike.

Dude, the CAAD-9 is the pinacle of aluminum road bike design. There is no better and I don't think anybody will argue the merits of that statement. It's what they've done for 30 years.

Also, I don't personally like Trek at all. Wife has one and likes it but me, not so much.

Good luck with whatever you choose. I'm telling you I'm a new guy and I've got 1200 miles on my CAAD-9 in less than two months and couldn't be happier.

Another typical BF CAAD9 fanclub comparison post with absolutely no experience on a carbon bike (that the OP could probably pick up for only about $300 more).
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for under $2,000 I would get the CAAD9-4 (not the 5!!!) being that it comes with BB30 and SRAM Rival.
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I just bought the 2010 Trek 2.3, and I love it. Woulda liked to have SRAM Rival, though.....
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aerocat r350, if you want something that is not as common as everyone else, try this. here's the link https://www.aerocatbike.com/Products.html

pretty light at 18 lbs, and you can build it up they way you want, ie a comfy seat. this will not get squishy, ever, it is super well made. i race and these babies feel super supple when they need to be and super stiff when youre diving into a corner
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I did my last double century on this bad boy:



Probably a $300 frame. Wheels make 95% of the difference. Fit ended up being comfortable, but don't make the mistake of riding your Performance-brand bike with a Performance-brand saddle, unless it's the saddle you're used to.
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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
Just because it is comfortable for you in long distances it does not mean it will be comfortable for everyone. The CAAD9 is not a comfort frame so why should the OP take a gamble with it when he can get something like the Synapse which is. The CAAD9 is not the end all be all even though people around here want it to be.
then why do you say this

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If you want to do centuries the CAAD9 is not the bike for that so stay far away.
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Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
then why do you say this
Because I knew from the get go that all of the CAAD9 followers were going to start their chanting so I wanted to get my point across before that happened. I like how it's always CAAD9 for everything around here without even reading what the people are looking for.
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Originally Posted by jrobe View Post
Another typical BF CAAD9 fanclub comparison post with absolutely no experience on a carbon bike (that the OP could probably pick up for only about $300 more).
Maybe he'll be even more comfortable on the carbon bike but his point still stands, he's comfortable enough on the caad9. A bentley is really comfortable, but that doesn't mean a BMW isn't comfortable.
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