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Mapping/creating routes

Old 06-03-10, 10:48 AM
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Mapping/creating routes

What do you use to create or map routes? Any good websites? I used to live in the country with unlimited back roads to ride freely with no worry of traffic, now I live in the city with seemingly no where to ride and need help with finding some routes.
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Old 06-03-10, 10:59 AM
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ridewithgps.com
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Mapmyride spams you to death.
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https://ridewithgps.com/

Exponentially superior to MapMyRide.
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Old 06-03-10, 11:05 AM
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Old 06-03-10, 11:06 AM
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Old 06-03-10, 11:20 AM
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maps.google.com

Skip the biking option and select the "avoid highways" option. Street view is a wonderful thing.

If you want to search routes, MapMyRide is good, but I can never seem to map a route on there without bugs. RideWithGps is better, but still a little buggy.

If you just want elevation, go here: https://www.gmap-pedometer.com/
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Old 06-03-10, 11:42 AM
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I went to a store and bought something called a map! what an amazing thing it shows where all the towns are and has squiggly lines in diffrnt colors to show where the roads go.

I am trying to learn to use my new GPS but since it came from europe I am having trouble getting it to talk to my computer.
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Old 06-03-10, 12:03 PM
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Thanks. I found mapmyride earlier and it wasnt all that great so Ill try the other site now.
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Old 06-03-10, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
https://ridewithgps.com/

Exponentially superior to MapMyRide.
+1 , you dont even need to register if you want to create your own route!
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Old 06-03-10, 12:33 PM
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use mapmyride.com for a week, and then try ridewithgps.com. you'll never go back

then give the ridewithgps kids a small donation, they'll appreciate it and send a thank-you note
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Old 06-03-10, 12:45 PM
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i like toporoute.
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https://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx

The only benefit i have ever seen to mapmyride is that it has thousands of rides that other people around the globe have posted. So, if you want to go to an area you don't know you can see routes there before getting there, and you can also download them to a GPS device.
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Old 06-03-10, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dgasmd View Post
I like https://bikeroutetoaster.com You can input your average speed on flats (18 mph) and how well you climb (90 fpm) and it will estimate your travel time fairly accurately. You can also ride against a 'virtual partner' with this information. The climb indicator is a little tricky to calculate. It took me a some trial and error to dial it in just right. The utility will add minutes to your overall time based on how much elevation gain. At this time it does not adjust for descents (possibly in the future). It also has the option of using two mapping engines, Google or OpenStreetMaps. OSM will auto draw many bike trails (MUPs) that aren't recognized by Google.

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I just use gmaps pedometer.
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Old 06-03-10, 06:25 PM
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TP www.trainingpeaks.com

I used mapmyride before I tried trainingpeaks.com.

The difference is that Trainingpeaks offers a calendar and tracks the ride. The topology view is also much more advanced than mapmyride.
The free account has the ability to consume powertap files too.
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Old 06-03-10, 06:29 PM
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Another vote for ridewithgps.com even though I don't own a gps. I like their elevation tool WAY more than mapmyride.
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These days I snoop around with google maps. I usually don't pick a whole new route at one time, I'll just add to or change an existing route just a little bit and try it out. Of course you could always scout out new routes in your car. My longer rides are usually Saturday morning and usually I can go places on Sat. morning that might be too busy other times of the week.
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Old 06-03-10, 10:24 PM
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another vote for ridewithgps.com
I also looked at strava.com to see why people pay membership there and didn't get it: it has fewer features than ridewithgps.com and even weird approaches (you cannot upload a GPX, you can only email it and it appears shortly in your account).
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I've just started using RideWithGPS and quickly noticed a DRAMATIC difference when plotting out the exact same route on MapMyRide.

I plotted a ride in RideWithGPS that I already had stored in MapMyRide. They both show 50 miles (+/-) but MapMyRide indicates 1394' of climbing, whereas RWGPS shows....3204'! I mean HOLY SMOKES...that's not even close. On another route I plotted, again about 50 miles, MMR has 364', RWGPS has 1323'!

Anyone else such dramatic differences?
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Originally Posted by lpolliard View Post
I like https://bikeroutetoaster.com You can input your average speed on flats (18 mph) and how well you climb (90 fpm) and it will estimate your travel time fairly accurately. You can also ride against a 'virtual partner' with this information. The climb indicator is a little tricky to calculate. It took me a some trial and error to dial it in just right. The utility will add minutes to your overall time based on how much elevation gain. At this time it does not adjust for descents (possibly in the future). It also has the option of using two mapping engines, Google or OpenStreetMaps. OSM will auto draw many bike trails (MUPs) that aren't recognized by Google.
+1

It is the only site (that I know) that gives me a course with course point warnings ahead of the turn. I like ridewithgps but I can't get the warnings on a course except the few at the beginning. And I don't get choose whether to have the warning or not. With bikeroutetoaster I can be selective and only add turning warnings at the part of the route I am not familiar with, thus saving memory.
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Old 06-06-10, 10:57 PM
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I have tried Mapmyride, Bikeroute Toaster and just created a route with Ride with GPS. I haven't tried yet with Ride with GPS but not other site I tired have I been successful at transfer a route to my Garmin Edge 705. If I want to create a route, I use Garmin's Mapsource and it works well.

Mapsource doesn't have the options that the website have, however, like seeing your see what level of climb you will experience or seeing a satellight image of the road so you see if there are bike lanes.

Anyone using these sites with their Garmin?

Update:

Bike Route Toaster lets you put the line down the side of the road so that if you are returning on the same road, the line will run down the opposite of the street. This eliminates confusion. It doesn't look like Ride with GPS does this.

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Old 06-06-10, 11:09 PM
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