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Any bikes exclusive to Europe?

Old 06-04-10, 03:20 PM
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Any bikes exclusive to Europe?

I'm going to be studying abroad in Italy this summer and I will definitely need a bike for when I am there or I'm gonna go nuts.

I was thinking of flying with my bike but since my bike isn't worth that much anyways, the bike bag, extra bag fees, oversized fees, etc will be more than the cost of my bike.

I've decided to spoil myself and purchase a bike there and fly/ship it back here when I leave.

My question is that are there any desirable bikes that are easy to get in Italy/Europe that are hard to attain here in the US?

The reason I ask is because I can get any bike I want in the States but I might as well get something special and exclusive since I'm going to buy a bike in Italy anyways.

So far I've been looking at Cube and Canyon but I'd love to hear more suggestions.

Thanks.

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the real deal bottechia (read not the bottechia they sell on bikesdirect). canyon is a good one if you can get your hands on them. i'd consider storck & stevens among those rare euro bikes, but something tells me you can find them stateside

edit: here's a link https://www.bottecchia.com/
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special and exclusive = expensive and unnecessary.

save mommy and daddy's money and just buy something in the US. it will be cheaper, and if truth be told - nobody gives a siht what you ride as long as you're capable of riding.

on top of that, cube and canyon are a dime a dozen over here.
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If you are going to be anywhere near Tuscany , you 'll deserve something special. Because riding about Tuscany is special. Does not mean it has to be super expensive; unless that is what you want.. you'll not find bikes much more expensive in the EU , unless the euro continues it's downward path.
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Well the purchase is going to be self-funded so mommy and daddy's money will be untouched.

Just want to get something special while I'm there since its improbable that I will venture outside of the United States for a long period of time like this to justify purchasing a new bike.

That's all.
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How special is your budget for this special bike?
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Yeah I'll be in Siena which is in the Toscana region.

Should be very special
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I have about 2000 dollars to spend on the bike.

I figure that sounds about right since that's how much entry-level carbon race frames are around here.

I'll splurge a bit more if the deal or bike is spectacular
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Originally Posted by astardotcom View Post
I have about 2000 dollars to spend on the bike.

I figure that sounds about right since that's how much entry-level carbon race frames are around here.

I'll splurge a bit more if the deal or bike is spectacular
That's not very special.
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"Special" bikes aren't too expensive over here. You can get a brand like Zanatta, Cube, Granville, Thompson, Prorace or a myriad of others for a decent price.
The shop I race for has a carbon factory make a frame to their specs and send over a crate of 500 bare carbon frames here. They paint and decal them here and sell them under the same "Flanders" name as the eponymous bike shop. They make more money, you get more, and they also offer a crash replacement warranty for an extra 100 Euro or soemthing.
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low end colnagos and modern low end peugeots.

If anything, I'd go for an Eddy Merckx, since they sort of trickle into NA region.

But, you can also go for an european Cannondale, which have much better paintjobs than NA versions.

or maybe a Koga Miyata.
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You can get any Colnago in the US.
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Aren't the low end bikes in Italy made in the same Asian factories as the low end bikes in the USA?
If you want high end, go for a hand-made custom-geometry bike from an artisan frame builder.
Not that you can't find an artisan frame builder in the USA, but at least yours will have an Italian name.
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Originally Posted by astardotcom View Post
I have about 2000 dollars to spend on the bike.

I figure that sounds about right since that's how much entry-level carbon race frames are around here.

I'll splurge a bit more if the deal or bike is spectacular
you'll need more.

to give you a clue as to how things are priced, a DA equipped bike by big manufacturer (say trek/specialized/giant) in the US costs the same as an ultegra equipped bike over here.
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alternatively, there is a guy on ebay selling very nice classic framesets out of the europe region
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Get yourself a custom steel CIOCC and I don't want to see one non-italian part on the bike.
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go for a hand-made custom-geometry bike from an artisan frame builder.
I was thinking the same thing. Find some bloke pounding on an anvil in a dirty horse barn in some field. Stroll in and ask him to make you a bike. Like no other.
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a DA equipped bike by big manufacturer (say trek/specialized/giant) in the US costs the same as an ultegra equipped bike over here.
Why is that? (Yes, I've never been across the pond.)
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Pretty much all carbon bikes in Italy are outsourced except for the very high $5000-7000 frames from the usual Italian makers. If you want special go to an artisan and have him make you a custom steel bike. That would be special.
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Originally Posted by cshell View Post
Why is that? (Yes, I've never been across the pond.)
import duties, value added tax, take your pick.
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Plus the cost of anything he might save in the EU compared to the US will be negated when he pays the huge VAT. If anything I would just spend the $2000 on a custom Italian steel frame and buy the rest of the stuff in US or order it from the EU once he gets back to the US so he could actually save some money.
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Even if I did go custom, I'm only there for 3 months so I'd imagine after waiting for the thing to be built that I wouldn't have that much time (or any at all) to ride the darn thing.

Unless those artisan frame builders can build me a custom bike a lot quicker than the people in the States.
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I've found a Specialized shop in Prague, CZ.
Nice store, not a huge price difference.
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Originally Posted by astardotcom View Post
Even if I did go custom, I'm only there for 3 months so I'd imagine after waiting for the thing to be built that I wouldn't have that much time (or any at all) to ride the darn thing.

Unless those artisan frame builders can build me a custom bike a lot quicker than the people in the States.
I think you are missing the point that you are going to need a lot more than $2000 for something "special". Also special things take special time to make. Plus who cares that you can't ride the bike there when you will come back to the US with some true bling and ride it here.
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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
I think you are missing the point that you are going to need a lot more than $2000 for something "special". Also special things take special time to make. Plus who cares that you can't ride the bike there when you will come back to the US with some true bling and ride it here.
Well 2000 was a pretty lowball number.

Truth be told I do have some more saved up and I have been putting in quite a bit of overtime lately and sacrificing on a lot of other aspects in my life.

Being paid close to minimum wage sucks but thats why I work 35 hours a week on top of being a full-time student to try and even things out
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