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Which stem is stiffest?

Old 06-08-10, 01:10 PM
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Which stem is stiffest?

Ritchey WCS 4-Axis
Deda Newton
Deda Zero 100
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Whichever one is the heaviest (I think Deda Newton takes that honor).

Deda Newton was the go to stem for the sprinters not too long ago, if I remember correctly. If it is stiff enough for them, it is probably stiff enough for 99% of us.
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What length?
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That's what she said.
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Originally Posted by Irvent
That's what she said.
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fwiw, WCS stem is stiff enough for alessandro ballan & cadel evans, though i have heard about people complaining that the ritchey pro stems are better suited for sprinters
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Originally Posted by achoo
Thats a low blow.
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Originally Posted by JPH3
Thats a low blow.
Blow? Not a bad idea.

On a more serious note, I can't believe the doctor in that article was quoted as saying bike saddles should come with a warning. Wait until the lawyers get into this one.
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wow, this thread kinda went south, anyway to get back on track to the original posters question, the stiffer one would be a short stem......
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deda is very stiff..
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I googled "stem stiffness test" (I know, mad interweb skillz )

https://biketechreview.com/reviews/st...test?showall=1

I'd get the Ritchey.

Oh, look at me, I did get the Ritchey. For context, 6'4", 178 lbs, 44cm bars, 130mm stem, 1750W max sprint. Ritchey works great for me with a lot of bike swing out of the saddle.
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I've heard a lot of good things about the 3t stuff. I love my 3t stem, but it is so short and I am so light that stiffness is the last thing on my mind.

FWIW, don't go by weight as a determination of stiffness. For example, the 3t team and pro stems are essentially the same stem, but the team uses ti bolts. So stiffness would be the same, yet the team is lighter. Not all weight contributes to stiffness.
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Yeah, I think if you were going to look at one spec for stem stiffness, it would probably the one with the largest minimum radius off its axis. Weight would be the last thing I'd look for (think about a stem made from 1/2" re-bar).
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Pro Vibe 7S. Their bars are light and solid as well, I really like their stuff.
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Good overall question about stem stiffness. I have a 3T Ergosum and it is probably a bit stiffer than the Ritchey you asked about. I have no experience with Deda Newtown. I can advocate for a Thompson, two or four bold faceplate stem. Very stiff, clean, simple, and made in America. The other stem that I use is a Syncros Factory stem. Both in 120 or 130 lengths. The Syncros is one stiff stem. You can find them at Bikewagon for reasonable prices.
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EA90. 38mm boom. Same rationale as frame construction: thin wall + large diameter = stiff & light.
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"Which stem is stiffest?"

I'm not even going to answer a dirty question like that...
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Length would be 110mm and 120mm (two bikes, different TT lengths). Thanks for the input so far.
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