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Campy Record??

Old 09-07-04, 08:31 AM
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Campy Record??

So, what sort of bikes come with Campy Record, which is supposed to be the gold standard in terms of components??

Supposedly, the Campy Record components alone cost $3500--wow! It seems like most of the high end bikes I've looked at come with Dura Ace.

Is Campy record that much better?? What's the big deal with it??
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Old 09-07-04, 08:33 AM
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Campy Record is not 3500 bucks.
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Old 09-07-04, 09:04 AM
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I believe a complete Record gruppo can cost just under $3k U.S. Most of the bikes with Record that I've seen cost no less than $4500. I couldn't tell you if it's better than Dura-Ace because I've never used either. Record is more of a luxury-type gruppo, but any performance improvement over Dura-Ace is probably not worth the price difference. People pay for it because they want Campy Record. Period.
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Old 09-07-04, 10:11 AM
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If you like Campy stuff just get the current Chorus groupo,.........they're practically Record components from a couple of years previous, minus the labels.
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Originally Posted by live311
I believe a complete Record gruppo can cost just under $3k U.S. Most of the bikes with Record that I've seen cost no less than $4500. I couldn't tell you if it's better than Dura-Ace because I've never used either. Record is more of a luxury-type gruppo, but any performance improvement over Dura-Ace is probably not worth the price difference. People pay for it because they want Campy Record. Period.
Colorado Cyclist sells it for $1689. Includes hubs and HS, not wheels.
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Old 09-07-04, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
If you like Campy stuff just get the current Chorus groupo,.........they're practically Record components from a couple of years previous, minus the labels.
2004 Chorus is 2003 Record, 2004 Centaur is 2003 Chorus, etc.

Well, not exactly, since 2003 Record had some Ti bits that 2004 Chorus doesn't, but it's basically true. With Record you get slightly less weight, a prettier gruppo (carbon fiber) and a much heftier price tag. Funcionality (within the same year) is the same as Chorus.
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Old 09-07-04, 08:28 PM
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Chorus=DA, Record is for show $$$$$
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I am probably getting chorus...though now that the levers are carbon, I may need to get centuar shifters, as I kinda like the old school alloy look... (shrug)
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[stereotype]Everyone with Campy has Record.[/stereotype]
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Originally Posted by Chi
[stereotype]Everyone with Campy has Record.[/stereotype]
I do! I admit it. Buying a bike kitted with Record isn't a great idea, because it seems the manufacturer notches the price up artificially. What you pay, some money goes toward great components, some goes toward (hopefully) a great bike, and the rest just leaks out of your wallet because you can afford to. And buying a complete Record group is pricey too. $1600? Mmm, not when you can get a pretty nice bike with two wheels for that.

After scoring that EV3 frame, I was determined to make it my dream bike. So I hunted down deals on eBay and elsewhere for the components. Only took me two and half months to put together the group. Total cost: $1080. A lot of money, yes, but the moment I get home from work, I'm out the door and spinning. Weekends are so much fun. It's a passion that feeds itself. The more I ride, the more I love my bike. The more I love my bike, the more I ride.

There's nothing wrong with Ultegra, DuraAce, or even 105 (which I have on my Volpe). They're a better value; I think 105 is a steal and Ultegra is great. They will perform splendidly.

I simply wanted a bike that is recognizable, a celeste Bianchi, and yet stands apart. Hence, the Record group. I see too many Treks with Shimano groups and Ksyrium wheels. Great bike, components, and wheels (perhaps even the best), but just not for me.
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Just wondering if there is an attitude about people who do have Campy Record. It's like saying "gee I would never own a Porche 911 they are crap". Or maybe I can't afford one. I have ridden every component system made to my knowledge even back to the old Suntour days. I think a Campy Record is an excellent group and if one has the money to pay for it but it. It's not about flash, maybe it's the best money can buy and operates like it. For some reason many top professional teams use it, they have a budget, if it's just flash they wouldn't use Record.
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Originally Posted by Jakey
I am probably getting chorus...though now that the levers are carbon, I may need to get centuar shifters, as I kinda like the old school alloy look... (shrug)
Send 'em to me - I'll gladly swap my aluminum 02 Chorus 10 spd shifters for CF ones.
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I've got Record on my current bike. I have only had it about 2 - 3 months, before that I had Shimano 105. I love the Campy Record and the comparison between that and 105 is no comparison.

I was just wondering when I'm watching a race on tv why is it that 90% of the riders have Dura Ace? If Campy Record is supposedly superior to Dura Ace it seems strange that so many racers use the new Dura Ace. For example, when watching the women's road race from the Olympics I did not see one rider with a Campy group. Why is that? Is it because it is a bit cheaper than Record?

Don't get me wrong, I love my Campy group. I really like the way the hoods feel over the way the Shimano hoods feel, so I am extremely happy with my purchase. I just wonder why so many racers use Dura Ace.

Edit: BTW, I love my CF shifters. I think Shimano is really missing the boat by not using CF for their shifters. They feel great! I recommend you try them out before you downgrade the shifters. I think you just might like 'em.
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[QUOTE=Tennessee]I've got Record on my current bike. I have only had it about 2 - 3 months, before that I had Shimano 105. I love the Campy Record and the comparison between that and 105 is no comparison.

I was just wondering when I'm watching a race on tv why is it that 90% of the riders have Dura Ace? If Campy Record is supposedly superior to Dura Ace it seems strange that so many racers use the new Dura Ace. For example, when watching the women's road race from the Olympics I did not see one rider with a Campy group. Why is that? Is it because it is a bit cheaper than Record?

Don't get me wrong, I love my Campy group. I really like the way the hoods feel over the way the Shimano hoods feel, so I am extremely happy with my purchase. I just wonder why so many racers use Dura Ace.
QUOTE]

That's easy - sponsorship. Shimano has a larger promotional budget.

I'm a Campy lover myself, but have to admit that, performance wise, there isn't that much difference between the high end groups. Other than the shifters feeling nicer, I can't see all that much difference between my Chorus/Record equipped bike, and my friend's ultegra bike.
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[QUOTE=johno]
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I've got Record on my current bike. I have only had it about 2 - 3 months, before that I had Shimano 105. I love the Campy Record and the comparison between that and 105 is no comparison.

I was just wondering when I'm watching a race on tv why is it that 90% of the riders have Dura Ace? If Campy Record is supposedly superior to Dura Ace it seems strange that so many racers use the new Dura Ace. For example, when watching the women's road race from the Olympics I did not see one rider with a Campy group. Why is that? Is it because it is a bit cheaper than Record?

Don't get me wrong, I love my Campy group. I really like the way the hoods feel over the way the Shimano hoods feel, so I am extremely happy with my purchase. I just wonder why so many racers use Dura Ace.
QUOTE]

That's easy - sponsorship. Shimano has a larger promotional budget.



I'm a Campy lover myself, but have to admit that, performance wise, there isn't that much difference between the high end groups. Other than the shifters feeling nicer, I can't see all that much difference between my Chorus/Record equipped bike, and my friend's ultegra bike.

What races are you watching? The TdF more than 60% were on Campy and over 70% in the Giro.
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