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Ordering the bike today

Old 09-07-04, 08:33 AM
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Ordering the bike today

And before I do, there are a few last minute details....

Currently I was set with an Ultegra with American Classic 420 specced Orbea Orca ($3500). I asked my trusty LBS guy, what's the next best upgrade (very dangerous question) and he said that I can go full Chorus but with American Classic 350s for $700 more.

Now before this becomes a Shimano VS Campy thread (as that is not my purpose and I really don't care to go into it) the real question is does the upgrade from Ultegra to Chorus (for the Shimano lovers consider that I'm upgrading to Dura Ace instead) and downgrade on Wheelset make it worth the $700 price difference?

I'm thinking I'm in this for the long haul so $700 bucks, although pricey, means I shouldn't buy beer for a extra three months ( and since I don't drink anyways...). If this means a better ride for an extra few yearns then I'm guessing it should be worth it. The wheel downgrade has me a bit down though so your thoughts appreciated.
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Old 09-07-04, 08:38 AM
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I think Ultegra stuff works pretty good so I'd stick with that and better wheels.
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I'd go with the chorus upgrade as the 350's are not much of a downgrade really from the 420's. If weight matters to you the titles of the wheels refers to their weight, the 350's are 350g's and the 420's are 420g's. If you are not a heavy rider (under 200lbs) and will be doing hills then the 350's are probably the best bet for you anyways.
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Originally Posted by larue
I'd go with the chorus upgrade as the 350's are not much of a downgrade really from the 420's. If weight matters to you the titles of the wheels refers to their weight, the 350's are 350g's and the 420's are 420g's. If you are not a heavy rider (under 200lbs) and will be doing hills then the 350's are probably the best bet for you anyways.
So the lighter weighing 350s are cheaper because of there is less material used? What's the downside of this lightness, less durability?

Not really a lot of hills on my commute but I do tend to look for them. There's a nice 1 mile stretch near my house (not sure on how steep) that I try to do regularly. Basically I'm looking to really get into road biking and while the primary use of the bike is the 6 mile each way commute, the long term goal is to put a ton of miles for personal use.

I'm relatively light at 153 lbs. but am hoping to lose about 10-15 more. I'm a short guy at 5'7 and since I've lost about 25 lbs over the past six months I fugure I should set my goals high.
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Originally Posted by jslopez
So the lighter weighing 350s are cheaper because of there is less material used? What's the downside of this lightness, less durability?

Not really a lot of hills on my commute but I do tend to look for them. There's a nice 1 mile stretch near my house (not sure on how steep) that I try to do regularly. Basically I'm looking to really get into road biking and while the primary use of the bike is the 6 mile each way commute, the long term goal is to put a ton of miles for personal use.

I'm relatively light at 153 lbs. but am hoping to lose about 10-15 more. I'm a short guy at 5'7 and since I've lost about 25 lbs over the past six months I fugure I should set my goals high.
Campy stuff does really break in to be almost ridiculously smooth...that said, I have Old school ultegra on another bike and you can't say much bad about it either...there's just something sexy to some folks about Campy...
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go for the cabon bits on the Chorus. $700 cool factor. My 10yr Campy Mirage (was a poor student) started to get to much play this spring but still shift great.
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Had a chance to speak to my bike guy, the added price is not just for the groupos but also improved stem, handle bar seat post and saddle. He also echoed Larue's thoughts that as a small rider the wheelset will be of some advantage to me as well.

So I went with the campy chorus and will just count the days till I get the bike.
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