Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Got halt? lmao!

Old 09-07-04, 10:12 PM
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Got halt? lmao!

OMG, yesterday I was on a ride, the day before, I encountered something coming at me at full speed that kind of resembled a polar bear in Full blown stride! I mean, ears layed back and all. The route I run is 20 miles outside the city limits and there are no leash laws out there. So its open game for the game lol. Anyhow, take it from me, if you encounter a Dog coming at you and he/she is totally quiet and not making a sound (rather running or trotting) he/she means business. The ones that bark while coming dont even pay attention too but this ol boy was gunning for some biker ass!

I reached down for the HALT spray and, well, it wasnt there,(hurricane frances was near and I wanted to squeeze in 20 so I was in a hurry) Well, I was in a curve, downhill at about 20 mph and traffic was coming. I had 2 options, hit the brakes in fear that this 90 pound polar bear would miss me in the front or try to just flat out dust him.

I jammed the breaks, he went accross my front tire and into the road where a state trooper of all people almost cleaned his clock. Anyhow, I got a nice new FULL can of halt and will have it in hand on the next trip by his house. 20 miles and 2 dogs (loose) to contend with. The other is a barker.

Anyone have a "lmao" story about our furry friends?

LOL
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You must have some seriously scary dogs in your neighbourhood that would make you carry HALT. (i assume HALT is either maice or pepper spray) The worst thing I've encountered (apart from cars) are swooping magpies. They just leave dents in your helmet where they try to peck you.
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On a ride saturday with another rider, he nearly got his leg taken off by a pitbull... The dumba** owners had him tied up, but he could still reach about four or five feet into the road... I just about crapped my pants... had he been loose, I may have set a new land speed record...
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Originally Posted by wattsy_rules
You must have some seriously scary dogs in your neighbourhood that would make you carry HALT. (i assume HALT is either maice or pepper spray) The worst thing I've encountered (apart from cars) are swooping magpies. They just leave dents in your helmet where they try to peck you.
Havent encounted a serious magpie swoop yet still early inthe season though, have heard of people drawing eyes on there helmet to discourage them. Must say though a bear
would be more dangerous, able to travel over rough terain with ease.Must be a reason there cauld mag pies, any recipes?

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Im in the Deep South, Farm, tobacco fields, cows, and yes DOGS! and some just dont care for the 2 wheeled thingys. Ive heard its our cranking motions that get there attention. Next time he wont see a thing! muaahahahahahahahahah!!!! or smell a thing either at least for a couple hours hehe
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What exactly is Halt made of?

If it was so bad that I had to buy something to keep a recurring problem of a dog away, I'd just get the strongest pepper spray known to man.
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Thats all it is, it was designed for mail carriers and such.

0.35% Capsaican
99.65% INERT ingredients (pure pepper)

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I read some descriptions of the product and they made it sound pretty weak. I don't want a "heat sensation" to affect my assailant, I'm after the "fallen into a volcano sensation".

Would this be more or less painful than traditional pepper spray used for self defense?
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with pepper spray, it's not a 'heat sensation' it's BURNING the insides of of your nose, throat and lungs, and hangs in the air for a fu<king long time. [so anyone who comes through the area or downwind afterwards gets a similar treatment]

pepper sprays, cs, tear gas all invariably suck.

meanwhile:
http://www.botac.com/sabred125ozb.html

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There was a dog on a route I used to do when I lived in Virginia. We were pretty convinced that no one ever fed it, because it came tearing after anything that moved, and it always looked hungry. We just took to carrying dog biscuits with us, and we'd just toss a handful of them to it. He'd stop to munch, we'd sprint away, and all were happy. We weren't eaten and he was fed.
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Mean dogs are the bane of rural cycling. I try to kick them if they run along side. The ones that charge to knock you down are the worst. I try to adjust speed suddenly so they either fly by or miss to the rear.

What really sucks is when they get you on a steep hill. All you can do is sternly tell them "no" and hope it works. If not, get off, put your bike between you and the dog and fight if you must.

I never had any luck squirting them with the water bottle and I don't carry pepper with me.
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Originally Posted by JBBOOKS
I never had any luck squirting them with the water bottle and I don't carry pepper with me.
I often see this mentioned on the boards about squirting a dog with the water bottle. But the dogs that scare me, sure as hell wouldn't be put off by a squirt. I mean, if the dog will be deterred by a squirt then it's not going to hurt you (though yeah it could still cause an accident, I guess, eh?).

Man out here in the countryside there are some big, mean looking dogs. Not many, and most times they're behind a fence or tied up, but some of these dogs ain't your average Rover.
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That stinging sensation could prove harm to you if you're not careful. Make sure you aim to your side. Nothing like shooting a strong spray in front of you, then running into it full steam....Makes for an interesting ride. As a person who carries such items during work, make sure you practice with it. If you don't practice the act of at least getting the can from your jersey, and aiming it, you won't be able to to do it when it counts...Just some friendly advise.
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I've been knocked off my bike by a charging dog. If they get the jump on you and are running at full gallop, stop, get off, keep the bike between you and the dog. I try using firm language, telling them no, etc. Most dogs aren't mean, they just see you as entertainment. I carry pepper spray for those other dogs. I don't hesitate to use it, but the dog's actions determines how I use it.
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I've got the strongest frame pump there is and I will use it on some dog if I have to even to the point of ruining it. No dogs on any of my routes so far, they are good for sprint training though.
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Originally Posted by p3ntuprage

pepper sprays, cs, tear gas all invariably suck.

meanwhile:
http://www.botac.com/sabred125ozb.html

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here's my story:
back when i was in college at WVU i'd go jogging during the day. there was a cemetery on a hill with a path right down the spine of the hill with a nice view to either side. it was just some random morning and i was jogging along that path and i look down the hill to my right and there's a Great Dane cantering at a diagonal up the hill on an intercept course... no sign of any other ppl anywhere. i thought i was dreaming - i'd never seen such a large dog and i totally had no plan. i just kept jogging hoping nothing about me was startling and the dog came right along side. i put my hand out and tried to make some friendly who-loves-a-good-dog noise and it did this sniff of my hand thing that i totally didn't know how to interpret and then it zagged back down the hill never to be seen again.

i was almost giddy after that - like maybe "happy to be alive" is the right expression. i mean i'm sure it was nothing, but i didn't know that at the time. i was just like "what the??.... great dane... no ppl... um... jeez... nice dog??"
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That's been most of my experience they just want to play. There used to be two dobermans near me. I was over there to see the young man that lived there on some 4H business. He was holding the two dogs which were, of course, barking and snarling. I squatted down to their level and held out both hand with the fingers wiggling and told "let go". He did and I had my hands full of ears to be scratched and no more mean sounds from the dogs. Boy did he look surprised.

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An expanding baton is also a great tool for the really tough ones. I would question the use of it on anything other than a biter though.
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Originally Posted by legitimate user
I'd just get the strongest pepper spray known to man.
That would be a jacketed hollow point from a 357 magnum or larger caliber handgun. Great for dogs or any other living niusances on the roadways
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Originally Posted by p3ntuprage
with pepper spray, it's not a 'heat sensation' it's BURNING the insides of of your nose, throat and lungs, and hangs in the air for a fu<king long time. [so anyone who comes through the area or downwind afterwards gets a similar treatment]

pepper sprays, cs, tear gas all invariably suck.

meanwhile:
http://www.botac.com/sabred125ozb.html

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What is sabre?
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Don't worry. With pepper spray (aka OC), the dog will get the "volcano" effect. It hurts like hell. It feels like you whole face is on fire and there nothing you can do to stop it. It also affect your breathing so you're gasping for air. The only problem with the pepper spray is that it take 3 to 4 seconds before it takes effect. If the dog is gnawing at ya, 3 or 4 seconds is a long time.

p.s. yep, I've been sprayed before.
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What is sabre?
should have probably explained this one better. sabre make 'defence' sprays and associated products.

http://www.botac.com/sablawendefs.html

i really wouldn't conscionably use any of it though.

get a friend to try it on you first so you know how much pain you're going to inflict.

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My husband and I were flying down a steep hill in a nice neighboorhood that gets very little car traffic, so we are used to seeing people out walking and jogging and such. A lady was walking on the right side of the road (facing the same direction as us so she couldn't see us coming. Well, her dog was walking too, and was on one of those retractable leashes, except he was on the OTHER side of the street with the leash stretched to capacity across the road. Can you say clothesline?
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