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Old 09-08-04, 05:31 PM
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please advise new to road biking

I have riden mtb for a good while and am thinking of crossing over and i'm trying to make an informed purchase. what can a guy get for around $2000 this is my first bike and i dont want to break the bank. also I am sure there are stories of, if i had known then what i know now. i looked at a 62cm trek 5000 nice bike $1900 is this a good price? oh yes im 6ft 5 anything taller guys could tell me about the advantages or draw backs. And at last no one will ride with me i have no friends or mabey they just prefer to lay on the couch... yeah thats it. in northern va any good riding clubs? thanx for all your help
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Hi,
ironic handle. Being so tall, finding a frame that won't be wimpy under you is a challenge. I suggest you test ride bikes like this. Find a hill; get out of the saddle and accelerate up the hill. Do this with a few bikes, and you will notice differences in stiffness in the bottom bracket. Stiffness is not the be all and end all; but you do want to avoid wimpy. Cannondale makes a couple frames that are stiff enough. But if I was you, I would take a long look at custom or a bike made for tall fellers. Rivendell makes one. It's called Redwood. http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/htm...lusframes.html
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Don't know what your financial situation is, but if you are going to spend 2K on your first road bike, I hope you have a good LBS that is can give you a competent fitting - even if you have to pay for it (as long as you get some/all back from them if you buy from 'em). You just don't want to be having to ride a daily reminder of an expensive mistake.

Have a friend who is your size who just got a Litespeed Teramo Ti bike and loves it. He went with the XL compact frame - lots of great options in your price range.
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Originally Posted by Steelrider
Don't know what your financial situation is, but if you are going to spend 2K on your first road bike, I hope you have a good LBS that is can give you a competent fitting - even if you have to pay for it (as long as you get some/all back from them if you buy from 'em). You just don't want to be having to ride a daily reminder of an expensive mistake.

Have a friend who is your size who just got a Litespeed Teramo Ti bike and loves it. He went with the XL compact frame - lots of great options in your price range.
Up to 2k, and it seems to get a good bike with good components thats what its going to take, ie carbon to dampen ride and good comp. to haul my heavy but around as im 247 cause weightliftin' is my first passion. if you guys have other ideas send em this way i need them. ?trek 5000 or giant tcr? my lbs is preformance they sold me my last two mtb.
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I'm a tall guy at 6'4" and I just bought my first road bike after years on an MTB. I rode a few bikes and found that Trek, Giant, and Specialized were all too small for me. At 6'5", I'd imagine that you would probably experience the same thing. I also considered a custom frame but found that the minimum price for a good to great frame (because at a custom level, they're all at least good) was $2500 with mediocre components.

I settled on a 63cm Bianchi Virata, and couldn't be happier:

http://www.bianchiusa.com/virata.html

I would suggest going to a bike store that actually takes some measurements and tries to fit a bike to your frame instead of just trying to sell you something. I posted this thread here on the forums when looking for my bike and got a lot of good responses, hope this helps:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=63135

You're in a unique position being tall, it's pretty hard to find bikes in your size and especially at this time of year when inventories are super low to make room for 2005's. I love my Bianchi, but my best advice it get what fits you best, and fits your budget.
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Originally Posted by greenstork
I'm a tall guy at 6'4" and I just bought my first road bike after years on an MTB. I rode a few bikes and found that Trek, Giant, and Specialized were all too small for me. At 6'5", I'd imagine that you would probably experience the same thing. I also considered a custom frame but found that the minimum price for a good to great frame (because at a custom level, they're all at least good) was $2500 with mediocre components.

I settled on a 63cm Bianchi Virata, and couldn't be happier:

http://www.bianchiusa.com/virata.html

I would suggest going to a bike store that actually takes some measurements and tries to fit a bike to your frame instead of just trying to sell you something. I posted this thread here on the forums when looking for my bike and got a lot of good responses, hope this helps:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=63135

You're in a unique position being tall, it's pretty hard to find bikes in your size and especially at this time of year when inventories are super low to make room for 2005's. I love my Bianchi, but my best advice it get what fits you best, and fits your budget.
Well i have thought about that and alot of people here seem to like bianchi but according to there web site they have no dealers in the Va area. the trek 5000 seemed to fit ok and im thinking of getting a tcr but, keep in mind that i have ridden a L giant mtb 56-58 cm for years so any bike thats close to big enough is a great improvement. to answer how did that happen questions, i went to get a bike and the kid there sold me what they had not what i needed and i did not know better so i got used to it.
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I am 6'4" and have been riding road bikes and racing on and off since 1987. Tall and short people will always have some fit issues on bikes. You should be able to fit just about any 63-64cm frame (center to top). I am long torso-arms, short legs so I ride a 61 with a 140 stem and the seat way back. Trek and LeMond have good geometry for tall folks. Look for a bike with 72 deg. seat angle and a long top tube if you want to get low. This month's issue of Bicycling has a real nice Masi on the front cover and reasonably priced! You can always install a shorter stem to sit more upright, but if the bike fit is to short with a 140 stem, you are stuck!
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Check out the many dealers in the Nothern VA area and see what they recommend. I actually really like the Giant TCR and if it fits you, I would recommend it, but I really wouldn't trust the guys at performance to fit you properly. Go to some of the other dealers and see what they say. Also ride anything and everything you can find in your size. $2K will get you a very nice ride, but also keep in mind the other equipment you will need/want like shoes, helmet, shorts, jerseys, and basic tools.

Talk to the bike shops about local riding clubs. I live in the NoVA area and will start riding with groups once I get a bike. (Mine was recently decommissioned due to a gentlemen ramming his car into it).
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I can get the giant for about 1800 and i think drivetrain and frame thats the best im gonna get for that price is it bad to take a bike you bought somewhere else to a different shop to get fitted?
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Originally Posted by sizmaters
I can get the giant for about 1800 and i think drivetrain and frame thats the best im gonna get for that price is it bad to take a bike you bought somewhere else to a different shop to get fitted?
One shop will not want to fit you for a bike you purchased some place else for free, if at all. There is a bunch of bike fitting info on the web.

Try http://www.cyclemetrics.com/Pages/Fi..._fit_links.htm

One think I can tell you... at 6'5" you need 180 mm cranks which means Dura Ace or Record.
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I can get the giant for about 1800 and i think drivetrain and frame thats the best im gonna get for that price is it bad to take a bike you bought somewhere else to a different shop to get fitted?
I am recommending checking out other shops before you buy the bike and seeing what size you are on different manufacturers. Then you can compare geometries with the Giant and see if that will fit. Other shops would most likely charge you if they do the official 'fit kit' and you don't buy a bike from them. For free you can get someone to watch you ride and they can comment on what size you would need. It is probably most important that you figure out what size you need though, and this comes through lots of riding and experience. Hard to get when this is your first road bike, so just ride as many as you can.
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dude - i'm 6'4.5" and i live in DC. there aren't any bikes for you to test ride in any of the dozen or so bike shops around here. honestly, all the general threads about getting fitted and riding lots of bikes to get a feel for things go right out the window with ppl as tall as us.

i really don't think a Giant (with their S, M, L, XL sizing) is going to fit you well at all. i don't think a carbon Trek will fit that well either since they only run up to 62cm c-t.

here are my two suggestions:

1) if you don't live too far away, you can come and test ride the bike i got - here's the thread about it.
http://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=62669

it's 64cm center to center, and it currently has a stem on it that's too long for me, so it'd fit you great i'm sure.

2) you can buy this bike on eBay based solely on my say-so and be happy as a clam for the rest of your life (and i'll hate you for being the one to get it, especially if it goes for anywhere near the $1500 starting bid):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

god i love my bike, but i'll be a bitter old bastard if that Colnago doesn't get bid up a ways. what a looker that thing is.
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I'm 6'3" and I bought the 2005 Trek 5000. I could not be happier.
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hmm..

i get the feeling the few inches of height difference at the fringes (really tall, really short) make a bigger difference than in the middle.

i sat on a 63cm Trek 2100 and the first thing the LBS guy said was "i dunno, maybe you should start looking at custom". i assumed from that that the slightly smaller carbon frames (62 is the biggest you can find really) just wouldn't do it.

the bike i got is not only 64cm c-c, it's also got a 61.5cm TT.

that's cool for you though, i'll bet the Trek 5k is sweet as honey.
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thanx for the input as i got the giant tcr comp 2 today and all i need now is someone to teach me how to ride the darn thing
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*****, really?

did you find an XL in stock someplace?

that's a nice choice - my brother in law got one just a month or so ago - but i never imagined a compact carbon frame would fit somebody our size.

looks like that colnago is mine all mine!!! my credit card is gonna be smokin'!!
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i rode a 58 cm mtb for four years this feels about the same it has a 120stem which puts me almost down to race height according to my lbs im not sure
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do you know what size it is? L or XL?

i always thought mtb were mostly measured in inches, but that's besides the point. yeah, my mtb was a 23" as well, but my road bike is considerably bigger.

anyway, that's a great bike - not trying to take anything away from it. i'm just amazed that you can be 6'5" and ride a 58cm roadie or anything near it.
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my mtb is l im not sure of the measure but ive ridden it for four years my seat is all the way out and i just got used to it my roadie is a xl and my crouch fells about the same havent been to far on it but ill know soon
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