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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 07-02-10, 10:12 AM   #151
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Interesting how everyone around me who states “you look too thin” or “you don’t need to lose any more weight” or the classic “you look unhealthy” are folks who don’t ride...hell…don’t do anything that requires effort. I’ve given up saying anything as it always seems I end up defending or justifying my activities and healthful regime. At least here folks who are stumbling through this multipage pre 4th reminder to eat less during firecracker weekend ultimately know what they’ve got to do.
So that what's this is, a reminder to eat less during the 4th of July weekend? I thought it was a multipage rebuttal to such thinking. Holidays are off limits. No way am I going to eat less. I will just ride more.
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Old 07-02-10, 10:49 AM   #152
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dude, i'm 6' and 165 lbs. gotta gain a little weight. so I can better fit into the recumbulator seat, a tighter fit is safer for napping.
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Pcad, it's just you're past 50 now (as am I). I'm tired of beating myself 70 miles to exhaustion, going home and eating 1/2 of what I used to, and waking up 3# heavier the next morning.

I tried during winter doing 2 Slim-Fasts (190cal ea) and a very small meal for 3-4 days in a row and gained weight each time.

I might as well just eat ice cream.
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I'm perfectly content in my fatness.
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They're interviewing Lance the other day and when they ask him what the best tool he has for training is, he responds 'the bathroom scale' without hesitation. Then he says 'sometimes that means you can't have that cookie'.

I'm way too lazy to read the 7 pages this thread has grown to, but do you have a link/source for that quote? I really like it.

I'm hungry right now. I'm faster than I've ever been, but I need to lose at least 7 pounds in the next 2 months... this sport ASTOUNDS me.

EDIT: so I read the whole post and it's just a bunch of fat guys bragging about being fat, skinny guys bragging about being skinny, and pictures of food....

Being fat/skinny is NOT the point. The point is to go fast, skinny is just a means to an end, but it's not the only way there. I know people who are WAY skinnier than me and I still drop them on climbs.

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Cycling is just an excuse to have an eating (or not-eating) disorder.
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Old 07-02-10, 01:03 PM   #157
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Pcad, it's just you're past 50 now (as am I). I'm tired of beating myself 70 miles to exhaustion, going home and eating 1/2 of what I used to, and waking up 3# heavier the next morning.

I tried during winter doing 2 Slim-Fasts (190cal ea) and a very small meal for 3-4 days in a row and gained weight each time.

I might as well just eat ice cream.
That's not very inspiring, but my metabolism is preposterously slow now. However, the less sugar and carbs I eat, the more I find I can actually lose weight. And it's really hard no matter what I do. Oh well.

100+ miles tomorrow. I'll probably gain 2 lbs.
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Living life by the bathroom scale is the key to unhappiness.
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Living life by the bathroom scale is the key to unhappiness.
That's why I don't even have a bathroom scale.

I'm much happier with the superior accuracy of the scales at the rec center.
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Oh I don't know, the scale can let you know that your efforts at fitness are working.

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Oh I don't know, the scale can let you know that your efforts at fitness are working.
Only if you define "fitness" to mean the lowest weight. The reality that it's very possible to be light and unfit, and light an unhealthy.
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The reality that it's very possible to be light and unfit, and light an unhealthy.
Eff reality. Reality has no place on BF. Don't you know that by now?






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Anyone who defines fitness simply by standing on a scale would not be here.
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I hate it when you're right Pcad, but you're right about this one.
After riding for three years my net weight loss was.......nothing.
Last year I bit the bullet, seriously dieted with high protein food, no snacks, very little sugar, lots of water. AND riding. I lost 35lbs over 7 months.
SOooo this year I decided to lose another 15 lbs. But I'm sure I don't need to diet. I mean, last year was extreme and I'm only proposing to lose less than half what I lost before.
So without dieting, but lots of riding I've lost exactly,....... nothing, nada, nicht, zer0.
Gee thank for reminding me to diet. May a giant squirrel jump down your jersey as you pass under his tree.
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I hate it when you're right Pcad, but you're right about this one.
After riding for three years my net weight loss was.......nothing.
Last year I bit the bullet, seriously dieted with high protein food, no snacks, very little sugar, lots of water. AND riding. I lost 35lbs over 7 months.
SOooo this year I decided to lose another 15 lbs. But I'm sure I don't need to diet. I mean, last year was extreme and I'm only proposing to lose less than half what I lost before.
So without dieting, but lots of riding I've lost exactly,....... nothing, nada, nicht, zer0.
Gee thank for reminding me to diet. May a giant squirrel jump down your jersey as you pass under his tree.
When I resumed cycling, I went from 210 lbs to 180 lbs over about 4 months pretty easily. Then 180 to 170 was slower. That last 5 lbs down to what I consider to be an ideal cycling/race weight for me? That's very tough indeed. You have to ride lots and really watch what you eat. I'm convinced your body goes into survival mode and wants to hold onto the last few pounds of fat. It's really 3x harder now than it was 10-15 years ago, metabolisms tend to downshift when you're 50+. I'm about 170 now and trying to shed that last 5, and it's tough. At 165, I'm about as thin as Lance looks at 156, he's 5'8- 5' 9" or so, I'm 5'11". That body type is rather atypical for a racing cyclist (they're usually lighter at our respective heights). Hell, at 5'9" and 156, Lance is very heavy for a world class climber. That dude cranks out some serious wattage.

I do not.

Anyway, most guys my height who are good cyclists tend to be lighter, more like 140-155 lbs. I can't really get much below 163-165, I've tried. I felt weaker and slower. But of course it's quite possible that if I gave it enough time to adapt, I might be a better cyclist @ 160. I'd like to try, but realistically I could only get that skinny by September and then the season's over. I can't stay that thin over the winter. Not a chance.
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I'm 5'10". I was 225 when I started back up 3 or 4 years ago and pretty quickly fell to 195 shortly after.
These days I sit at 190-195 and I highly doubt I'll ever see the underside of 190 again in my lifetime.
I was too fat. I am too fat. It hurts when I go uphill. I do it, anyway.
So it goes
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It hurts when I go uphill. I do it, anyway.
I find it amazing how much easier climbs get when I drop those last few pounds. I've gotten down to 170 recently, and that climb up the steepest grade of my hill now only starts getting me winded about 80% of the way up the steep part. In March my lungs start burning at 50% mark or sooner. The hills do get flatter as you get skinnier. That hardest part of cycling for me is going uphill, anything that makes it easier makes riding and racing less stressful. When I'm in shape I can be on a fast group ride or race and the moderate upgrades actually become a recovery zone for me.
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I'm 5'11" 170 lbs and people accuse me of being too thin.
Yeah I know. I'm trying to put on weight... I actually gave up sugar and white flour because it helped my acne, not to lose weight. I'm trying to put on more muscle mass and I started taking some weight gain stuff and doing upper body exercises for cyclists.. I've always had a hard time putting on weight though.
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I'm also pescetarian, which probably doesn't help

Oh, and car free in the suburbs right now.. 40 miles a day is pretty normal

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When I'm in shape I can be on a fast group ride or race and the moderate upgrades actually become a recovery zone for me.
What do you mean by in shape? Considering all the miles you ride, how could you be out of shape?
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I'm also pescetarian, which probably doesn't help

Oh, and car free in the suburbs right now.. 40 miles a day is pretty normal
That's where I'm heading, though I don't know if it will ever be 100%.
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I've always had a hard time putting on weight though.
If I drive past a Domino's Pizza in February I gain 3 lbs.
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