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Old 07-07-10, 06:50 PM
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strategy needed...

Ok I entered my first race, it's a 2 day event, TT, road race, hill climb and Crit.
Having never been in a bike race before, what strategy is there to the crit?
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Get out front, don't crash and pull over if you have to puke.
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Originally Posted by Chrimbler
Ok I entered my first race, it's a 2 day event, TT, road race, hill climb and Crit.
Having never been in a bike race before, what strategy is there to the crit?
You probably won't be needing to worry about strategy. Just hang on as long as you can.
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Get out front, don't crash and pull over if you have to puke.
don't you mean WHEN he needs to puke?
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
You probably won't be needing to worry about strategy. Just hang on as long as you can.
mmmmm....so you assume I'm am in no shape to win it?....based on the fact that its my first race??....the 10 years of running marathons/ultra running, and 3 years of riding 300+ miles a week won't help me??

I'm not questioning the engine, I would like pointers on the tactical side of racing crits
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Don't pull everyone around lap after lap. Ride smoothly through the corners. Don't be the guy that freaks out if you touch elbows.
Just race .... the tactics will come. You learn by doing. You can read books on tactics, but it won't mean much without having raced.
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Check out the road racing forum. If you think you're fast enough to stick with pack or even possibly win, then try to get up front near the end to win the sprint.

If this is your first time riding in a group like that, then be predictable. Hold your line in the turns and try not to crash. Also watch out for "squirrelly" riders.
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The 33 would like to talk to you.
More specifically:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...s-a-tip-or-two
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Originally Posted by Chrimbler
mmmmm....so you assume I'm am in no shape to win it?....based on the fact that its my first race??....the 10 years of running marathons/ultra running, and 3 years of riding 300+ miles a week won't help me??

I'm not questioning the engine, I would like pointers on the tactical side of racing crits
Granted, I have not raced since the early 1990's..........................................but no, it won't help at all. You might be in for a rude shock.
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Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat
Granted, I have not raced since the early 1990's..........................................but no, it won't help at all. You might be in for a rude shock.
ok....if you could expand on this I would be interested, I want to know what to expect
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Originally Posted by Chrimbler
ok....if you could expand on this I would be interested, I want to know what to expect
I'm not a racer and not EB, but running fitness doesn't translate directly into riding, and 300 likely-junk miles per week isn't going to put you in shape to win a race against people who specifically train for racing, just at a guess.
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I'm not a racer and not EB, but running fitness doesn't translate directly into riding, and 300 likely-junk miles per week isn't going to put you in shape to win a race against people who specifically train for racing, just at a guess.
running fitness=cardio, and I like to think that after all the training I've done I know something about quality vs junk miles
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Originally Posted by Chrimbler
running fitness=cardio, and I like to think that after all the training I've done I know something about quality vs junk miles
It's funny how you're flipping between asking for advice and knowing everything. Honestly, I hope you do a write-up of the event afterwards on here.
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Originally Posted by Chrimbler
ok....if you could expand on this I would be interested, I want to know what to expect
It's been a loooong time, but the engine you have can only be put to work if you can run it within the limits/situations that racing holds exclusive. My first race was a Santa Barbara Research Area crit way back in 1983(?) and I was a super fast, powerful little guy......................on the road. It was a yo-yo of madness, just not crashing took a supreme effort. I was in no shape to win a race.

Not saying you can't win, but be prepared to be humbled.
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Originally Posted by Chrimbler
running fitness=cardio, and I like to think that after all the training I've done I know something about quality vs junk miles
Don't argue about it ...... or I'll have to get some buckets of popcorn. Do the race, then come back with questions about the next race.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
It's funny how you're flipping between asking for advice and knowing everything. Honestly, I hope you do a write-up of the event afterwards on here.
Ok you are obviously confused, I never said I knew everything, I did state that I think my fitness level is as good as it gets, for me....I am, however, asking for tactics....does that help?
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Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat
It's been a loooong time, but the engine you have can only be put to work if you can run it within the limits/situations that racing holds exclusive. My first race was a Santa Barbara Research Area crit way back in 1983(?) and I was a super fast, powerful little guy......................on the road. It was a yo-yo of madness, just not crashing took a supreme effort. I was in no shape to win a race.

Not saying you can't win, but be prepared to be humbled.
Soooo....be prepared for chaos?....
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Just TT off the front and leave everyone else behind. If you've been doing 300 quality training miles a week for 3 years now, you'll have no trouble destroying the field.
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Running and logging miles are a good base for a crit, but the typical crit is x minutes of intervals, go through a corner and sprint out of it, go through a corner and sprint out it...repeat until the final 200 meters.
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Originally Posted by Chrimbler
Ok you are obviously confused, I never said I knew everything, I did state that I think my fitness level is as good as it gets, for me....I am, however, asking for tactics....does that help?
That is much less cocky. However, "my fitness level is as good as it gets, for me" is not "I'm going to be competing for the win in my first race". I'd just focus on trying to hang onto the pack, and see how you feel afterwards.
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Originally Posted by Ariostea
Running and logging miles are a good base for a crit, but the typical crit is x minutes of intervals, go through a corner and sprint out of it, go through a corner and sprint out it...repeat until the final 200 meters.
Thanks, any pointers on lines etc, should i stick to the outside/inside of the pack, how long of a pull is the 'norm' in a crit?
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That is much less cocky. However, "my fitness level is as good as it gets, for me" is not "I'm going to be competing for the win in my first race". I'd just focus on trying to hang onto the pack, and see how you feel afterwards.
I never intended any of it to be 'cocky'...I'm 40 years old, I know I'm not going to win, but I am sure going to go for it, I was just looking for pointers on crit tactics
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