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Old 07-09-10, 09:25 AM
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Forte. Light enough, stiff, costs a tiny fraction of the competition.

https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...1511000_400207
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Old 07-09-10, 09:29 AM
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Is there a point where a stem is just too small? Are there any "dangers" associated with getting a stem that's too small? I know a shorter one will slightly increase responsiveness and result in quicker turning, but is there anything one should watch out for? When I suggested the shorter stem at my LBS the mechanic said yeah I wouldn't go too much shorter but never explained why and the convo turned before I could ask.
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Old 07-09-10, 09:33 AM
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Don't have an answer for that, but 110mm is pretty long depending on how you fit your frame. I guess it's relative to some degree. The handling characteristics will definitely change, but how much will depend on a few additional factors. Fork rake, bar width, etc...
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Old 07-09-10, 09:36 AM
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carbon bike, carbon bars, alloy stem! it needed to be said again. i use Cannondale C4 - cheap, stiff, light. whatever you get make sure it's a 4 bolt system at the bar, not the 2.
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Old 07-09-10, 09:50 AM
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-Ritchey, or just about any four bolt stem
-buy from the LBS, that way they can swap it if it doesn't fit
-no crabon freeb
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Old 07-09-10, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bloomieracer View Post
carbon bike, carbon bars, alloy stem! it needed to be said again. i use Cannondale C4 - cheap, stiff, light. whatever you get make sure it's a 4 bolt system at the bar, not the 2.
meh on the crabon bars. I've owned both and haven't found much difference in weight, stiffness or comfort.
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Old 07-09-10, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cave12man View Post
Is there a point where a stem is just too small? Are there any "dangers" associated with getting a stem that's too small? I know a shorter one will slightly increase responsiveness and result in quicker turning, but is there anything one should watch out for? When I suggested the shorter stem at my LBS the mechanic said yeah I wouldn't go too much shorter but never explained why and the convo turned before I could ask.
shorter stem = twitchier handling, but you need to get really short to notice a big diff <80mm

but depending on your body measurements YMMV.
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Old 07-09-10, 09:56 AM
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I'm a Thomson fan. X2 Elite works great for me, but then again I have a silver thing going and wanted to go matchy-matchy with my silver Thomson Elite post. It's CNC machined from as solid billet, unlike most stems which are forged. I have no idea if/why that makes a diff (and really dont care), I just know that it functions perfectly (and it's 2 bolt), is high quality with great fit and finish, and looks great on my ride.

Cave12man, stem sizing should only be tweaked for bike fit, not for performance or handling.
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Old 07-09-10, 10:23 AM
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Awesome thanks guys, just wanted to make sure.

shorter stem = twitchier handling, but you need to get really short to notice a big diff <80mm
Wouldn't be going any shorter than 90mm.

Cave12man, stem sizing should only be tweaked for bike fit, not for performance or handling.
Purely for fit. Thanks for the lookout though!

Jeepnut, sorry for jackin your thread for a minute.
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Old 07-09-10, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by anthony691 View Post
Forte. Light enough, stiff, costs a tiny fraction of the competition.

https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...1511000_400207
+1 Although Forte products are hit-or-miss, this one is a good one. The only reason I switched from mine was because I needed a -17 angle. I do admit, however, that the brand-***** in me enjoyed getting a Ritchey.
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Old 07-09-10, 12:24 PM
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Deda Newton is pretty much the Gold standard in stems. But most any stem will be fine.

Largely an aesthetics issue. I'd buy a reasonably priced one that the grapics/logos matched the look of the bike, which often leads to staying with the handlebar manufacturer.
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Old 07-09-10, 12:28 PM
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I have a Deda. To be honest, it's a set it and forget it item. IT does nothing but hold your bars to the fork. Get somethings that will not split in half in a sprint.
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Old 07-09-10, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
Consider Ritchey WCS.

Also just say no to carbon stems. Seriously.
+1 to both suggestions. Pro's don't ride carbon stems and bars, because if they fall carbon components are more likely to fail = end of race. It's the marketing men that want you to spend $200.00 on a stem.
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Old 07-12-10, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cave12man View Post
Jeepnut, sorry for jackin your thread for a minute.
No worries caveman! All great additional information as far as I am concerned!!
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Old 08-09-10, 10:31 AM
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So now that I have a pile of miles on the new setup, I thought I would follow up on this...

I went from a 110mm stem to a 90mm stem. Went with a 3T stem based on overall features and price (got a discount). So far this has made a tremendous difference. My lower back strain is pretty much gone and I feel far more comfortable on the BMC. I also purchased a new 3T Ergonova bar for it's shallow drops, which has also improved my comfort level on the BMC.
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Old 08-14-10, 04:47 PM
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Carbon frames, carbon bars, carbon wheels. What makes carbon stems silly?
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Old 08-14-10, 05:01 PM
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The 31.7mm Deda thing is just in how the round the number. It's actually 31.75, Deda call is .7, everyone else .8.

Deda Netwton and Zero are good. I also really like the 3T ARX Team, Ritchey WCS 4axis, and the Syntace F109. The 3T is hard to beat for the price and looks killer if you also run a 3t bar.
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Old 08-14-10, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by clx1 View Post
Carbon frames, carbon bars, carbon wheels. What makes carbon stems silly?
Carbon stems can be a bit silly at times because they are not usually not lighter than a nice aluminum stem and are practically always a lot more expensive. They are also only rarely stiffer than a good aluminum stem.

Case in point would be a 3T ARX LTD stem.... hugely more expensive, not lighter, and just a hair more stiff than the team model. Big reason to get one is just to keep the bars/stem/post matching if you run the LTD elsewhere. Now that you can get the Team with a white stripe on it... that was lessened.

Also, look how expensive the Edge Composites stem is..... it's a nice stem, but come on!
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Old 08-14-10, 08:18 PM
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good choice on the stem! stay with the aluminum bars, the thing about carbon bars...don't drop the bike! if the bars it the ground, the bars are done. carbon is just not good with impacts.

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Old 08-15-10, 12:12 AM
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3T. Aluminum.
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Old 08-15-10, 12:38 AM
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This is pretty hot

I think i'm going to get one also...
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Old 08-15-10, 01:32 AM
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For anyone interested in the Ritchey Stem I JUST bought one and this was the best price. I ordered from biketiresdirect but thought maybe to check ebay, 30 bux cheaper esp since its free shipping. Immediately cancelled order and went with ebay.

Here ya go: https://cgi.ebay.com/Ritchey-WCS-4-Ax...ts_Accessories
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Old 08-16-10, 06:58 AM
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I went with the 90mm as well and it cleared up every problem I had. Actually tried out a Forte stem just to see if 90mm was the way to go and haven't looked back. Yeah, it's not the name brand stem but it weighs no more and does the trick for half the price.
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Originally Posted by briscoelab View Post
Now that you can get the Team with a white stripe on it... that was lessened.
ACK!! This would have been preferred over the red striped one that was available when I got my 3T Team... Dangit...
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