DT Swiss RR 465 / RR 1.1 Rim - Can't get any tire mounted the RIMS ARE TOO TIGHT!
07-19-10, 10:16 PM
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Psimet, what's your technique for stubborn tires? I have the hardest time with GP4000's and Cosmic Carbone SL wheels, though I recently bought that tire jack recommended above. After I get most of the tire on, I have to kind of roll the tire back to get it on....
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Not sure to be honest with you. Keep in mind I have spent a lot of my life working in industrial manufacturing as a machinist and engineer...not to mention my extra-curricular activities. Honestly I have found that even with stubborn ones I can get enough of a grip to get 90% of it on. Then I use a nice solid plastic with steel core lever. Stick it in and wrench it over. It'll give and the plastic keeps it looking good.
As mentioned before and in my "tip of the day" thread - talk the tube and make sure there is some air in it to keep shape. make the valve the last area you put on. Set the bead then push the valve up into the rim to allow the bead to seat.
As mentioned before and in my "tip of the day" thread - talk the tube and make sure there is some air in it to keep shape. make the valve the last area you put on. Set the bead then push the valve up into the rim to allow the bead to seat.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Not sure to be honest with you. Keep in mind I have spent a lot of my life working in industrial manufacturing as a machinist and engineer...not to mention my extra-curricular activities. Honestly I have found that even with stubborn ones I can get enough of a grip to get 90% of it on. Then I use a nice solid plastic with steel core lever. Stick it in and wrench it over. It'll give and the plastic keeps it looking good.
As mentioned before and in my "tip of the day" thread - talk the tube and make sure there is some air in it to keep shape. make the valve the last area you put on. Set the bead then push the valve up into the rim to allow the bead to seat.
As mentioned before and in my "tip of the day" thread - talk the tube and make sure there is some air in it to keep shape. make the valve the last area you put on. Set the bead then push the valve up into the rim to allow the bead to seat.
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Originally Posted by max_vain
The following Tires are incompatible with DT swiss RR 465 rims
Continental Gatorskins
Michelin Lithon
Michelin Pro Race
Specialized Armadillos
You do realize once the tire's mounted, its easier to pull on and off? The first time is always the worst, but it ain't impossible.
07-20-10, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
For all we know you're trying to mount 650 tires on a 700 rim.
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Originally Posted by FlashUNC
I guess the Gatorskins I mounted on my 1.1's happened solely by magic then.
You do realize once the tire's mounted, its easier to pull on and off? The first time is always the worst, but it ain't impossible.
You do realize once the tire's mounted, its easier to pull on and off? The first time is always the worst, but it ain't impossible.
Anyway, the tires will definitely stay on the rim if they get a flat!
This is why tires are difficult on the Kinlin rim. The well in the middle is really shallow, so the bead doesn't get much slack.
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01-06-15, 12:48 PM
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Classic. Doing some research on DT rims and this thread comes up. Now five years old but littered with comments from one of the frequenters who drove me away from Bike Forums due to his tone and attitude.
There is a pro wrench on another forum and the guy succinctly, pleasantly, and knowledgeably answers questions all the time. If you're gonna be a pro and visit a forum populated by neophytes and folks who aren't pros you can't be a jerk about how much more you know. This thread would have been one page if someone could see they should just offer their advice and move on, not continue to bash and antagonize someone while everyone else enjoys the show. What a crummy way to go through life.
Haven't been in the training forum in awhile but I'd be willing to bet Sep VanMarcke isn't dropping in to tell everyone how inept they are at training for races
You probably haven't been riding road bikes that long if you haven't had a difficult rim/tire combination. We've all been there and it makes you want to scream profanities. And then, five years later you look back and laugh at how bad your technique was and smile.
There is a pro wrench on another forum and the guy succinctly, pleasantly, and knowledgeably answers questions all the time. If you're gonna be a pro and visit a forum populated by neophytes and folks who aren't pros you can't be a jerk about how much more you know. This thread would have been one page if someone could see they should just offer their advice and move on, not continue to bash and antagonize someone while everyone else enjoys the show. What a crummy way to go through life.
Haven't been in the training forum in awhile but I'd be willing to bet Sep VanMarcke isn't dropping in to tell everyone how inept they are at training for races
You probably haven't been riding road bikes that long if you haven't had a difficult rim/tire combination. We've all been there and it makes you want to scream profanities. And then, five years later you look back and laugh at how bad your technique was and smile.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Considering I am a wheel builder who has mounted more than a hand full of GP4000s on DT 415, 465, and RR1.1 ....I would have to disagree with you. It's your technique or hand strength. Period.
Its that
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Originally Posted by max_vain
I bet a good mechanic who works in a shop with high traffic of customers would know which tires fit more generously than others.
Hi, I bought DT swiss RR 465 rims formerly known as the DT swiss RR 1.1. I tried to mount new and used Conti's and Michelin's on the rim with no success. I cant even get the first bead over, these rims are ridiculously tight! I tried blow drying the rubber, stretching the tire etc. still no success.
I am sure a bike shop can get the tires on with some special tools and lots of effort, but the bike shop wont be around when I get a flat out training. So I can't rely on a bike shop simply to get the tire on the rim.
My three types of training tires are Conti's Gatorskin, Conti's GP 4000 and Michelin's Lithon 2, I have failed with all to mount on the DT swiss RR 465 rim. I dont want to think about the possible nightmare of getting a flat out on the road... I will be stuck because its damn near impossible to mount the tire on the wheel.
My question... is there a particular tire that will work with ultra super tight rims like these? Is there a brand/make tire that runs loose that will be easier to mount? Something of decent quality?
Thanks M
Hi, I bought DT swiss RR 465 rims formerly known as the DT swiss RR 1.1. I tried to mount new and used Conti's and Michelin's on the rim with no success. I cant even get the first bead over, these rims are ridiculously tight! I tried blow drying the rubber, stretching the tire etc. still no success.
I am sure a bike shop can get the tires on with some special tools and lots of effort, but the bike shop wont be around when I get a flat out training. So I can't rely on a bike shop simply to get the tire on the rim.
My three types of training tires are Conti's Gatorskin, Conti's GP 4000 and Michelin's Lithon 2, I have failed with all to mount on the DT swiss RR 465 rim. I dont want to think about the possible nightmare of getting a flat out on the road... I will be stuck because its damn near impossible to mount the tire on the wheel.
My question... is there a particular tire that will work with ultra super tight rims like these? Is there a brand/make tire that runs loose that will be easier to mount? Something of decent quality?
Thanks M
Yes, it's better that a tire lever because you won't damage the tube.
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The VAR tool is as good as the Kool Stop and is small enough to take on your rides.
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Originally Posted by nayr497
Classic. Doing some research on DT rims and this thread comes up. Now five years old but littered with comments from one of the frequenters who drove me away from Bike Forums due to his tone and attitude.
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Originally Posted by nayr497
Classic. Doing some research on DT rims and this thread comes up. Now five years old but littered with comments from one of the frequenters who drove me away from Bike Forums due to his tone and attitude.
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Originally Posted by max_vain
My question... is there a particular tire that will work with ultra super tight rims like these? Is there a brand/make tire that runs loose that will be easier to mount? Something of decent quality?
2. Learn some technique. For example, you want to start 180 degrees opposite of the valve since that makes more slack than starting at the valve.
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