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Using your core?

Old 07-21-10, 05:58 PM
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Using your core?

This might seem like a stupid question, but how exactly do you use your core when your ride? I've tried to look it up and all I can come up with is core training. I commute to work and back and its a good, hilly 8 miles; so I'm trying to get as much out of the ride as I can. So how exactly are you supposed to use your core when you bike? The only way that it seems like I can engage my core is if I'm going up hills.

Thanks in advance, Matt
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Old 07-21-10, 06:09 PM
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Well, for me I utilize my core if I am trying to sit up straight with less weight on my hands.
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Old 07-21-10, 06:26 PM
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in the drops with a sustained effort
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Old 07-21-10, 06:33 PM
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The next time you're standing on your pedals, feel how much your abdominals and lower back are working.
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Old 07-21-10, 06:48 PM
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its basically stability. anything where you need to keep your upper still or stable is using your core.
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I wouldn't recommend doing crunches while you ride.

Off the bike, they might be useful...
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Just tell yourself to tighten up. A few minutes later you'll relax and you have to remind yourself again. As soon as you think about it - tighten up.
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Old 07-21-10, 10:18 PM
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in a power producing riding position, you need your core to stabilize your body so you can transmit that guadalicious power to the pedals efficiently.
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Originally Posted by blamire View Post
its basically stability. anything where you need to keep your upper still or stable is using your core.
Yeah. I think the core is used a lot to hold you line, and like blamire said above - balance.
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Old 07-22-10, 09:57 AM
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Especially when you stand to pedal, your core is an important link between your points of connection with the bike (hands & feet).
Even if you have strong, powerful arms & legs, you won't be able to apply much force if you have a weak, noodly core.

Have you ever ridden with a sore back? Even when sitting, it's darned hard to apply any kind of power to the pedals when your core isn't up to the task.

It was said of Hinault and Bobier that the secret to their power was in their backs. I read something years ago about Bobier having such a strong back because he worked on his father's strawberry farm, and started racing the bike as a way to escape the drudgery of picking strawberries.
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Old 07-22-10, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by pdedes View Post
in a power producing riding position, you need your core to stabilize your body so you can transmit that guadalicious power to the pedals efficiently.
^This.

Don't count on cycling to enhance your core. Get in the gym and work on it.
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I noticed when I started doing my new 40 mile group ride, every Tuesday and Thursday, my core felt weak during the ride after a few miles of tough riding and especially at the end. I didn't do anything about this but kept going out to the ride, but kept getting the same feeling so I decided to try to change things up by working out my core and upper body a little more. Since I started working my upper body and core out more I'm able to keep up and not get dropped every time and last time I even had enough power left to sprint the finish. So just lift some weights, which will help tighten your core, and do some ab work and you'll notice one hell of a difference.
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Don't neglect your lower back and obliques. People are too obsessed with just their abdominals.
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When I want to engage more of my core I rotate my hips back. Rather than riding with my back flat and all stretched out (and at times even bowed down) you should rotate your hips to the rear and arch your back upward. I feel by doing this it allows you to put more power efficiently down to your pedals from your core. I should be riding more often in this position but find myself slipping out of it when tired. Sounds like I need to do more core training!

Just my two cents...YMMV.
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Old 07-22-10, 10:58 AM
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You're using your core all the time. We just take them for granted. The core provides the stable platform for your arms and legs to do their thing. Trainers have been pushing training the core lately, mostly in articles. Take a look at the pro's, their cores are ripped. They didn't get that way on accident. GL
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Originally Posted by kleinboogie View Post
You're using your core all the time. We just take them for granted. The core provides the stable platform for your arms and legs to do their thing. Trainers have been pushing training the core lately, mostly in articles. Take a look at the pro's, their cores are ripped. They didn't get that way on accident. GL
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Originally Posted by Blackdays View Post
Don't neglect your lower back and obliques. People are too obsessed with just their abdominals.
yep, that's your "core" - obliques, lower back, abdominals, and glutes

highly suggest this book for recommendation on weight training with a cycling focus
https://www.humankinetics.com/product...ycling-anatomy
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^this is a serious picture?

And I agree our core is always engaged and working, but most of us just don't notice it. Even still, working out your core and lower back will help a lot.
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Uh huh...

Kids, this is why you must never, never take EPO or other performance-enhancing drugs.
(Either that or someone with mad photochop skillz has colorized an old picture of the horrors of the Holocaust.)
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Try this on a smooth empty road: find a comfortable cadence and get in the drops nice and low with your elbows loose, then unweight your hands. Now your upper body is being held up by your core muscles. Now move your hands up to the hoods, with no weight on them. Now sit up. Now get back down in an aero position. Keep at it.
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Kids, this is why you must never, never take EPO or other performance-enhancing drugs.
(Either that or someone with mad photochop skillz has colorized an old picture of the horrors of the Holocaust.)
That's a very real picture - it's Michael Rasmussen.
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I knew it was a real pic of him; just trying to make light of his tragic physique.
Pity he sacrificed so much only to end up labeled a doper.
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Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
I knew it was a real pic of him; just trying to make light of his tragic physique.
Pity he sacrificed so much only to end up labeled a doper.
maybe now he can eat a sandwich.
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I felt bad for him too, but he's back to professional cycling now.

But what can you expect from a guy who would take the stickers off his bike because he was paranoid of them weighing him down.
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