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Family/Friends wanna get into cycling but not the $$$

Old 07-21-10, 08:23 PM
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Family/Friends wanna get into cycling but not the $$$

When I first got my road bike, Specialized Allez for 1200 bucks, my parents thought I was whacked and stupid for spending that much on a bicycle when Walmart and Target sells perfectly good bikes for 200 bucks a pop.

Anyhow, 2 years later, and buying me a Cervelo, my parents "kinda" understand the cycling thing. They understand it requires money.

My family and friends have noticed my improved physique as a result of cycling, and a lot of them want to get into "this cycling thing." Several of them have asked me advice on bikes and how much it would cost to get involved. Most of them go berserk when they found out how much I spent on my bike and cycling clothing. However! They are even more shocked and discouraged when I tell them that a good road bike will run them about 400-600 bucks, 200 bucks on clothing, helmets, etc.

Only one of them has taken the leap, he ended up spending about 1,000 and is really enjoying himself. However most of them want to ride but not put up that kind of money.

What is the correct way to handle this situation. I want these people to get involved in cycling but they don't want to spend more than 200 bucks. Should I suggest them getting a Walmart bike and then upgrade to a real road bike? The only thing I fear is that, those bikes are not fun to ride and after riding for about a weak, they might be real discouraged and never want to get into cycling.
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Old 07-21-10, 08:29 PM
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find a shop that rents bikes or find someone who will lend them a bike. they will either love it or hate it either way doesn't cost that much or free
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tell them how much a sports gym membership costs per year.
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Old 07-21-10, 08:41 PM
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tell them how much a sports gym membership costs per year.
lol, most of these people have never been in a gym
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Old 07-21-10, 08:41 PM
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find a shop that rents bikes or find someone who will lend them a bike. they will either love it or hate it either way doesn't cost that much or free
Hmm, I think thats a good plan. But would not really help them adjust with the sticker shock.
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Old 07-21-10, 08:44 PM
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Direct them towards used bikes.

And really all you need when starting is a pair of shorts and a helmet. And neither of those need to be expensive.
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Originally Posted by DRietz View Post
Direct them towards used bikes.

And really all you need when starting is a pair of shorts and a helmet. And neither of those need to be expensive.
+1

Or, you could just buy another bike and let them use one of yours.
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i'm not a proselytizer. the roads are crowded enough as it is.
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i'm not a proselytizer. the roads are crowded enough as it is.
I don't like any proselytizing of any kind either. I doubt that's what the OP did. When our friends and family see how much fun we are having(or time we are spending), they naturally ask questions.
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Old 07-21-10, 10:28 PM
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Tell them it's Pinarello or bust.
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I spent $170 on my "road bike" and about $150 on brifters just so I can ride a more effectively. I personally see nothing wrong with ordering a bike from amazon.com or elsewhere if they want to save money.
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Unfortunately, cycling is definitely a sport that requires about $1000 minimum, in reality. I know there will be all you CLers and DIYers that claim to do it on $100 and a lot of elbow grease, but for a true noob who doesn't have any wrenching experience, no friends in the business who can help with parts and know-how, and no sports clothing to overlap, it's about a $1000 minimum outlay for bike, clothing, shoes, pump, helmet, spare inner tubes, and all the other goodies that go along with a real road bike like the one you're riding. My Giant Defy3 is one of the cheapest of the true road bikes, and it was already $700 on sale. I got up to $1000 in expenses very quickly even with that inexpensive bike - clothing in particular is quite pricey on the bike.

Running is a far more economical sport, but still requires about $300 of outlay to do seriously if you've got nothing at all at first.
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Craigslist. Get a steel or AL used bike. Helmets + Shorts and the total should be less than $500. If they like it they will spend more on their own. There is no need to go out just testing the water.

Your parents bought you a Cervelo? Very nice.
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Old 07-21-10, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brightwork View Post
I don't like any proselytizing of any kind either. I doubt that's what the OP did. When our friends and family see how much fun we are having(or time we are spending), they naturally ask questions.
You are correct! I am not trying to get these people into cycling, I am spending more and more time with my cycling friends and losing weight. Naturally everyone is curious about my new founded passion and fun!


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I spent $170 on my "road bike" and about $150 on brifters just so I can ride a more effectively. I personally see nothing wrong with ordering a bike from amazon.com or elsewhere if they want to save money.
Oh Yeah? What bicycle? I would love to go this route with some of these guys.

GMC also makes a $200 bike, I don't know if it is any good...?
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Old 07-21-10, 11:23 PM
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Gotta say my dad is loving and hating the effects my cycling has had. After convincing him the worth of a solid road bike through a birthday present, lawn mowing and me paying for some I finally got into it recently with an entry level felt f95 for 800 and with all my goodies its probably at 1200 or so now. But riding it everyday has keened the interest of my brother, sister, and especially my dad himself. He loves the riding, he doesn't like the prospect of partially funding/ completely funding 3 more road bike. For your case i would second the idea of renting a road bike, even though it might not lessen the 1000 dollar blow, some may see just how much fun they can have and how much they will get out of it. I've had my bike 2 or so weeks and i already have 500 miles, thats like paying a 1.60 a mile so far, totally worth it. Once they try they'll be hooked.
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Used bikes are one way, and instead of saying how much YOUR stuff costs, give them entry level prices (maybe $500 for a nice used bike, or $700 for Sora etc.) Then explain how much a gym membership, golf membership, tennis membership or something similar would cost. Also, there are the health benefits. So, say you spent a few thousand over a few years, but you're exercising more and are far healthier than if you didn't buy the bike, it's probably worthwhile rather than buying some gym membership that hardly gets used.

There's also the part where you can explain it's what works for you to keep you motivated, healthy and exercising. Consider it money invested into yourself and your health. You could have spent far less, let's say a $200 bicycle from Walmart, it would be perfectly rideable, but would you ride it often (more than 50 miles per week? more than 100?). If buying the expensive bike motivates you to keep fit, then so be it, it's what works for you. A gym membership that isn't used is money thrown down the drain, some for workout equipment etc.
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If these guys can't commit to a measly $1K on a bike and some gear, what are the chances that they'll actually commit to riding regularly? My guess is that they'll take 5 mile cruises around the neighborhood.

Recommend some $300 hybrids to them.
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Old 07-22-10, 12:03 AM
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Gotta say my dad is loving and hating the effects my cycling has had. After convincing him the worth of a solid road bike through a birthday present, lawn mowing and me paying for some I finally got into it recently with an entry level felt f95 for 800 and with all my goodies its probably at 1200 or so now. But riding it everyday has keened the interest of my brother, sister, and especially my dad himself. He loves the riding, he doesn't like the prospect of partially funding/ completely funding 3 more road bike. For your case i would second the idea of renting a road bike, even though it might not lessen the 1000 dollar blow, some may see just how much fun they can have and how much they will get out of it. I've had my bike 2 or so weeks and i already have 500 miles, thats like paying a 1.60 a mile so far, totally worth it. Once they try they'll be hooked.

Way cool dude! I am glad everything worked out for you. By the time you look back at it, I'm sure it will be more like 0.0003 cents per every mile!
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Old 07-22-10, 12:08 AM
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If these guys can't commit to a measly $1K on a bike and some gear, what are the chances that they'll actually commit to riding regularly? My guess is that they'll take 5 mile cruises around the neighborhood.

Recommend some $300 hybrids to them.

I agree, but we don't really know what their situations are. Problem with friends getting $300 hybrids is you get stuck going for 8mph rides on the mups with them. It gets so frustrating that I end up leaving them behind for a few minutes to just get the carbon out.
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When you compare say $1000 to start with some of the other stuff ppl buy, its not that bad. A lot of ppl that smoke spend near $2k a year on that. Or eating out once every other week for a $50 dinner is $1300 a year. A $1.50 bottle of soda/water/coffee every day for a year is $550. I have tried to get some of my friends into biking as well. One got a BD bike and is pretty happy with it. The other was close to pulling the trigger but backed off and has not yet. All you can do is explain what you get for a certain $ and let them decide. Personally I think letting them ride a $200 bike for a while, then letting them ride yours would probably spell out the difference.

I had the chance to ride a top of the line Madone with DA Electric when I was shopping (shop owners bike, had me ride it to try out a bike with BB30). I had been testing bikes in the $2k range, well that level of bike was something else! He could of told me about it for hours but after riding it for 50' I understood the difference.
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Oh, forgot to mention: If they are thinking of doing commuting or running errands on the bike they should figure out the miles they will save on the car. Figure the fuel, tires, oil, etc. They might save several hundred a year so an entry level bike might pay for itself in a few years time as well.
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Ask them what their cable bill is for a year.
 
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I am trying to get into the sport also, and I have to say, I was stunned when I found out how much of investment it is. While my wife was able to find a local nice used Lemond, I have not been able to find anything used. The LBS wants around $700 for an entry level bike (Trek 1.2). Then you add helmet, shoes, clothes, and you are indeed at $1000. Everyone in the sport looks at that number and says, well it's not that bad. I tend to disagree. These bike components are way overpriced. I know, engineering costs, etc... but realistically these bike manufacturers have been doing this a long time. All that being said, I still plan on taking the plunge and spending around $1000.
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I got a cheapo BD bike. With the clothing and gear and stuff I am in for a little over $600 bucks.(no shoes or clipless pedals) My logic was this. If I get really into the sport I will probably want a bike that is close or over $2,000. So even if i went with a low grade Trek or Specialized for $800 to $1000 it still would not be what I really want. So I'll be a tool and get my miles under my belt in a cheapo road bike. I am working on my motor when thats tuned then a real chassis will be next. Then after a few thousand miles I'll take the big financial plunge. To me an expensive bike should be earned with hard base miles. The difference between a cheapo BD bike and a low grade name brand bike is not all that much and definetly not worth twice the price. It also works as motivation for me to get outside and lay down the miles. Every mile gets me closer to a dream bike.
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