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Old 07-28-10, 10:16 PM
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I just put on new wheels that are easily 400 grams lighter than my previous wheelset. Hills that use to suck aren't so bad now. I have been told that it is because of rotational weight. Taking 400 grams off of a wheelset is much more noticeable than taking 400 grams off of a frame.

Here is my question, would I possibly notice the difference in weight on a crank between Chorus and Record or Super Record, since a crank is rotational weight?
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Here is my question, would I possibly notice the difference in weight on a crank between Chorus and Record or Super Record,
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No
I don't think so, but I thought I would ask.
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If 2011 Campy has a cassette with 11-26 or 11-27, then that would be an improvement, and to me, worth waiting for. Apparently that won't happen. I am in the market right now for Campy Chorus and has it been in the past that the price may come down a bit in September?
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If you're smart and buy from the UK, prices have more to do with the current dollar to pound exchange rate. It's not all that low now, but you can still get a Chorus group for about $1036 from Shiny Bikes.
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Yes, I am pretty smart! I've been looking at the prices in UK and Ireland. Some of them offer free shipping and some don't. And don't forget the 1% or 2% foreign transaction fees built into your credit card. If there is any custom duty, then there maybe much less savings or even more costly.
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There is no customs duty on component parts if they are coming from Europe and into the USA. Our friends to the north in Canada aren't so lucky in that regard.
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Yes, I am pretty smart! I've been looking at the prices in UK and Ireland. Some of them offer free shipping and some don't. And don't forget the 1% or 2% foreign transaction fees built into your credit card. If there is any custom duty, then there maybe much less savings or even more costly.
You're right if the difference is only $100-200, but when it's $500, the savings are significant. Some credit cards don't charge a transaction fee (Captitol One, I think). I've never paid any duties, but you could be stuck up to 4%. I try to order as much as I need for several years in one order. I bought into Campy Record 11 for about $1400 per group. I also bought 9 chains for about $35 each and 6 tires for $30 each. I once bought 16 Michelin PR2 tires for about $23 each.

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Shiny Bikes does not seem to have currency conversion for item listing, unless I am not clicking the right place. Some others like Probikekit, Ribbles, Wiggles, Shane can list items in dollars. I almost bought an 8-piece Chorus for a tiny bit over $1,000 until there was a glitch about the 3-D security. I had no idea what the seller was asking and even my credit company did not understand the request. Finally it turned out 3-D is the same as the extra 3 or 4-digit security number on the card they were looking for. By the time the confusion was over, the price had gone up. I think it was a ploy for the seller to wiggle (no, not from Wiggles) out the original purchase price, to tell you the truth. Since I wasn't able to purchase it and since 2011 is coming out, I wonder if it would be wise just to wait a few more weeks?
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I guess the 8-piece set does not come with cables. Any recommended cables? Pricing? Thanks
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Originally Posted by mtdiablo View Post
I guess the 8-piece set does not come with cables. Any recommended cables? Pricing? Thanks
Just buy the appropriate Campy cable set for ~$60 from many places.
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I guess the 8-piece set does not come with cables. Any recommended cables? Pricing? Thanks
All shifters come with cables.

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The Chorus 11 group is 664.52 GBP. That converts to $1,058. The price in USD will change every day. You may order one day an get the next day's exchange rate.

https://www.shinybikes.com/bike/Groupsets/

https://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi?Am...=38&image.y=14
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I was deciding on chorus as well. I have used record 10 for several years and was happy. On a recent build I was contemplating going with Sram Red because of the pricing. Record is out of control in terms of pricing and parts. I ended going with chorus form Texascycleport.com excellent pricing with their cupon code. Did not need to deal with the UK. shipped in 2 days.
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Thanks for the info and the links. I bought a Chorus 10-spd groupset many years ago and just don't remember if that set came with cables. Probably did.
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Old 08-05-10, 12:12 PM
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In fact, my previous Chorus set was purchased from Texascyclesport. Forget if they charge for shipping. I don't mind purchasing Record but it seems paying more for less durability and quicker wear of the cassette.

One of the reasons I ended up searching European sites is that I am also trying to purchase a few Conti GP4000 tires. For some reason, the price of these tires in the U.S. is just not competitive, upper $50's as compared to mid $30's in Europe.
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In fact, my previous Chorus set was purchased from Texascyclesport. Forget if they charge for shipping. I don't mind purchasing Record but it seems paying more for less durability and quicker wear of the cassette.

One of the reasons I ended up searching European sites is that I am also trying to purchase a few Conti GP4000 tires. For some reason, the price of these tires in the U.S. is just not competitive, upper $50's as compared to mid $30's in Europe.

I have been siting on the fence as to whether I should by Chorus or Record. Even if I bought Record, I would buy a Chorus cassette. My local bike shop seems to think that Chorus is more durable because it doesn't use ceramic bearings, plus it is lower in price. The difference in weight between Record with a Chorus cassette and a complete Chorus group is about 60 grams and 40 of those grams in in the crank.

So, I will be buying Chorus probably from Shiny Bikes.
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Record has that bling factor. And then again the Super Record has the Super bling. I decided on Chorus the last time I built up a bike and I guess my logic is still the same this time, Chorus again.
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Texascyclesport included cables and free shipping.. Bling factor is important but.....Record vs Chorus $1500 vs $1000..
50% increase on chorus vs record for 120grams weight savings...

You may also want to consider warranty issue for items purchased outside the US.

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I just checked the Texas Cyclesport website and the Chorus group is only $1120. A great deal. If you need a lot of other items, buying from the UK might still be cheaper. Spare chains are $20 less, per chain and tires are about half as much.

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The least expensive Chorus from Uk that I can find today is about $1088. With that 1% credit card surcharge, it's not worthwile purchasing outside of the U.S. then. The tires are differnt story though.
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Have a question about the BLACK Campy BB30 adapter. I understand it's a press in thing. So, when I purchase the groupset, the crank can be pressed in regardless of English or Italian thread? The adapter does not seem to have thread yet in choosing the crankset, it asks for types of thread. How does the crankset fit into the adapter? I am a bit confused. Add to the confusion, I also see the SILVER or PEWTER outboard threaded adapter. Not sure what these are used for. My frame is designed to accept BB30. I assume I only need the BLACK adapter and not the SILVER/PEWTER outboard type, correct? Thanks for replies.
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Correct, you just need the BB30 adapter. The actual cranks are universal.
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Thanks. So that mean it does not really matter whether the groupset comes with English or Italian thread, which will be just a throwaway part, right?
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I have Chorus 11 Speed, 2010 with the single pivot rear brake. I have never locked up the rear and the brakes are very powerful. I weigh 200lbs and they will stop you. On my other bike, I have Record 10 speed, 2006, with the dual pivot rear brake. I have never locked up that one either and the Record dual pivots are also very strong. I would not get my knickers in a knot over single vs dual pivot rear brakes. It ultimately comes down to rider modulation of the brake levers, the brake shoes and rim races that you are using.
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