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Old 07-26-10, 04:32 PM
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Ksyrium Elite vs Psimet

Ksyrium Elite -$360
Psimet kinlin with white industries hubs-$560ish.

I really want the psimet but im tight on cash. Would the ksyrium be a noticeable upgrade from my aksiums ?

What do you guys think ?
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if you're tight for cash just wait a little longer till you can afford psimets. yes, ksyriums would be better, but handbuilt quality wheels would be better still. if you're going to upgrade, its worth the wait
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I have the Psimet wheels you mention above. They are as good or better than the Easton EC90 SLs, Easton EC90 SLXs and Zipp CSC training wheels I have also used on my bikes. I have put a lot of miles on them and LOVE them! I would save my $ for a few more months and get them. You will not be sorry you waited.

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I upgraded two bikes to Ksyrium Elite. One had Xero Lights low spoke original equipment. I could feel the difference on the first ride. The other, a full Campy Bianchi Campione, had Mavic CXP21's, betcha know how that one turned out. So I like Ksyrium Elites. But all I've read is good things about Psimet wheels. I think if I could get an equivlent to a Ksyrium Elite in a hand built wheel by a pro, like Psimet for a reasonable price, I'd go hand built.
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I went from Ksyrium Equips to psimet wheels (kinlin + dtswiss 240s + cx-rays). I wasn't expecting a dramatic difference (or at least one I could easily notice) and I use was wrong! Psimet wheels were a huge upgrade for me!

Any future wheels I'd get will be built be psimet.

So to answer your question, save up and get the built wheels
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where can you get Ksyrium Elite for $360? are they the lighter 2010 model?
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Buy the Ksyrium Elites for that low price, then sell then for $560 and buy Psimets. Problem solved.
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I am very confident that a set of Psimet wheels will last at least twice as long as any factory-built wheel.
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Buy the Ksyrium Elites for that low price, then sell then for $560 and buy Psimets. Problem solved.
This.
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here's the crazy thing.. your aksium's are better than the ksyrium elite's. wind tests have shown that the aksiums are actually a little better aerodynamically than the kysrium elite and sl's (go figure).

the only reason the aksium's are less expensive is because they're put together in asia where labor is cheap.

oh, and let me add that the kinlin-30 / white hub combo is awesome. they're my daily "fast group ride/training" wheels.
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I will save up for the Psimets. I would only be dreaming of the Psimets while i rode the Ksyriums anyway.

Nashbar sent me a catalog in the mail with a 20% off and free shipping coupon. The wheels were on sale. I dont see them on the website though.
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Originally Posted by Epicus07 View Post
Ksyrium Elite -$360
Psimet kinlin with white industries hubs-$560ish.

I really want the psimet but im tight on cash. Would the ksyrium be a noticeable upgrade from my aksiums ?

What do you guys think ?
If you have a good local wheelbuilder, I'd get an estimate on the Kinlins/White Ind wheels from him. Nothing against Psimet but there are a lot of good wheelbuilders. If you have a problem with a local, you can take it to the shop instead of shipping it back. Shipping vs. sales tax may be a wash though.

Take my advice with a grain of salt; I live a block and a half from an expert wheelbuilder.
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I have ksyrium elites and psimet kinlins. The ksyriums are hanging on my cross bike which hasn't moved in 8 months.
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Originally Posted by kensuf View Post
here's the crazy thing.. your aksium's are better than the ksyrium elite's. wind tests have shown that the aksiums are actually a little better aerodynamically than the kysrium elite and sl's (go figure).

the only reason the aksium's are less expensive is because they're put together in asia where labor is cheap.

oh, and let me add that the kinlin-30 / white hub combo is awesome. they're my daily "fast group ride/training" wheels.
Interesting. Link?
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Interesting. Link?
https://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-15505311.html
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Wow!
Very cool.

Thanks.
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Interesting. Link?
https://www.rouesartisanales.over-blo...-15505311.html

Among others..

Damn, beaten to the punch.
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....and very valuable information....... if you ride in a wind tunnel.

you don't say where you live, but in the upper midwest, where the roads can be a bit rough Ksyrium's are a valuable buy.
I am not sponsored, so when I need to get 15,000 to 20,000 out of my rims I can count on the Ksyrium's to provide that for me.

Durability, the quality of the hubs, etc. make the Kyrium's a great deal.


Everyone loves to bash Elites, but they remain a very popular wheelset. If they really sucked, word would spread like wildfire and sales would suffer a lot.
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Originally Posted by GP View Post
If you have a good local wheelbuilder, I'd get an estimate on the Kinlins/White Ind wheels from him. Nothing against Psimet but there are a lot of good wheelbuilders. If you have a problem with a local, you can take it to the shop instead of shipping it back. Shipping vs. sales tax may be a wash though.

Take my advice with a grain of salt; I live a block and a half from an expert wheelbuilder.
this is good advice. i'm sure Psi makes great wheels, but most any GOOD wheelbuilder will be able to build up a wheel to the same quality given the same parts, and it may be quicker depending on who you have locally.
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this is good advice. i'm sure Psi makes great wheels, but most any GOOD wheelbuilder will be able to build up a wheel to the same quality given the same parts, and it may be quicker depending on who you have locally.
Agreed. The problem is finding a good local wheelbuilder. I'd have to do a lot of staring at wheels and a lot of asking questions to random people on rides to get enough recommendations to where I would feel as confident ordering as I did with Psimet.
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Agreed. The problem is finding a good local wheelbuilder. I'd have to do a lot of staring at wheels and a lot of asking questions to random people on rides to get enough recommendations to where I would feel as confident ordering as I did with Psimet.
I've shopped around and with the lowest prices i've been able to find Psimets wheels still come out cheaper. He either must get a great deal on the parts or is really generous about the building cost.

I'm looking forward to it!
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Originally Posted by RiPHRaPH View Post
....and very valuable information....... if you ride in a wind tunnel.
Doesn't everybody Yes, it's not real world information, but it's an indication.


Originally Posted by RiPHRaPH View Post
you don't say where you live, but in the upper midwest, where the roads can be a bit rough Ksyrium's are a valuable buy.
I am not sponsored, so when I need to get 15,000 to 20,000 out of my rims I can count on the Ksyrium's to provide that for me.

Durability, the quality of the hubs, etc. make the Kyrium's a great deal.

Everyone loves to bash Elites, but they remain a very popular wheelset. If they really sucked, word would spread like wildfire and sales would suffer a lot.
As I said above, I'm confident that a pair of Psimet wheels (or any properly handbuilt wheels) would outlive the Ksyriums. 15,000-20,000 is a not impressive to me and most wheel builders. Almost every set of wheels I have built myself have lasted until the rim wall wears through, which was usually 40,000+ miles.
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Originally Posted by GP View Post
Shipping vs. sales tax may be a wash though.
Usually is.

Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
this is good advice. i'm sure Psi makes great wheels, but most any GOOD wheelbuilder will be able to build up a wheel to the same quality given the same parts, and it may be quicker depending on who you have locally.
Admittedly - because this is still not a full time venture for me - this is my largest hurdle. My apologies to anyone who can't wait and my thanks to all of those who have. Working diligently every day to improve it. The whole family is behind me, and my ops manager can be a real PITA, and my 4 yr old sucks at letters, but rocks at numbers like 24, 28, and 36 and he can clean spokes like no one's business....

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I've shopped around and with the lowest prices i've been able to find Psimets wheels still come out cheaper. He either must get a great deal on the parts or is really generous about the building cost.
This. I love the sport. There is not a lot of price elasticity in this market - especially not without having built the brand. The brand is getting very well established though. Getting a lot of inquiries from big guys in the industry. My niche is what i like to call the "working man's/woman's performance wheels" - in other words very high quality high performing wheels at a good value. Uber high end bling for bling sake or weight weenie builds don't really do much for me (although i love a durable weight weenie build). As such i will always strive to source materials that fill that niche at the best prices I can afford.

Lots of plans in the works. Don't mean this to be an ad. Sorry if anyone takes it that way. in response to the OP's question - I have posted a lot about mavic pre-builts. I think they are great wheels for what they are designed to do - work under 110# female racers and 245# Rec riders on centuries both. I think they satisfy both but excel at neither. Just my $0.02
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Originally Posted by Epicus07 View Post
Ksyrium Elite -$360
Psimet kinlin with white industries hubs-$560ish.

I really want the psimet but im tight on cash. Would the ksyrium be a noticeable upgrade from my aksiums ?

What do you guys think ?

If you want handbuilt and are short on cash, put a less expensive hub on there.
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Originally Posted by Epicus07 View Post
I've shopped around and with the lowest prices i've been able to find Psimets wheels still come out cheaper. He either must get a great deal on the parts or is really generous about the building cost.
I drove to his house/factory to spy on him and find out how he offers such low prices and shipping rates, and this is what I found.



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If you want handbuilt and are short on cash, put a less expensive hub on there.
Good point. WI are expensive hubs. I'm quite sure Psimet offers some less expensive hubs that are still quite lightweight and roll just great.
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