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Can't Put Two Water Bottles on Specialized Roubaix?

Old 08-07-10, 05:17 PM
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Can't Put Two Water Bottles on Specialized Roubaix?

A friend with a Specialized Roubaix, seen here:




showed me that she couldn't put two water bottle cages on her bike, because they were too close to one another. That is, the bottom of the cages hit one another. I thought maybe she just has a weird cage, but I checked it out and even with my cages, it wouldn't be possible.

Anybody seen this? What's going on?
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Old 08-07-10, 05:30 PM
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what size is the frame?
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Old 08-07-10, 05:37 PM
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The frame is too small, that's why. Some bottle cages will work some may not. Experiment with different ones and see.
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It happens a lot with smaller frames.

The answer: side loading cages or an AquaRack on the back.
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Old 08-07-10, 05:57 PM
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With small frames the side loading cages won't help if the bottles themselves are hitting each other - that's a function of where the bottle sits relative to the mounting bosses, not how the bottle is inserted/removed from the cage.

So if the bottles hit each other, side load cages don't necessarily help.

If the bottle hits the top tube as you pull the bottle out of the cage, a side load cage will help.

I have a similar problem on my frame as the OP's friend. I have a 40 cm seat tube (center of BB to top of top tube - it's 44 cm to the top of the seat tube), and the downtube is pretty beefy. My original cages (Elite aluminum things) extended down past the bosses pretty far, and the mounting bosses are pretty close together. I had a good 1+ cm of overlap - I literally couldn't install two cages at one time. My Specialized Rib-something cages were better, but I ended up opening up the mounting holes so that I could slide the downtube cage upwards about 4-5 mm. I'd prefer another 3-4 mm but I think that'll be a bit much. As it is, if I have the both bottles in, I have to take off my downtube bottle to release the seat tube bottle.

I also altered my seat tube cage so it sits more snug against the seat tube. It has to clear the front derailleur clamp so I filed a notch in the cage so I wouldn't have to use spacers. That bought me a few mm.

I'll have this adjusted for my second frame. For now it's fine, although I'll "mod" my downtube cage just a bit more when I feel like it.

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Old 08-07-10, 06:15 PM
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perhaps one of these Monoura handle bar mounts will work for her. I have one on my RIGI and Bianchi that for some reason only have on set of bosses. since my garmin and bell are on the stem my handlebars are clean and this fits right on.

https://harriscyclery.net/product/min...mount-1033.htm

this is not quite as nice as the Bianchi I have one on but you get the idea

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I have a size 49 Roubaix. Two bottles fit just fine.
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Old 08-07-10, 08:30 PM
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i'll try and get a better shot tomorrow, but i wound up making a custom cage mount out of some alu bar stock to move my seat tube cage down a few cm's.

i blame the frame manufacturers for putting the bosses where they cant possibly work together. fwiw, this is a 49 frame, and the two bottles fit perfectly now...
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl View Post
A friend with a Specialized Roubaix, seen here:




showed me that she couldn't put two water bottle cages on her bike, because they were too close to one another. That is, the bottom of the cages hit one another. I thought maybe she just has a weird cage, but I checked it out and even with my cages, it wouldn't be possible.

Anybody seen this? What's going on?
Groovy old Centurion--maybe 1988?
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Old 08-07-10, 08:38 PM
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I have a 48 cm frame. I've got side-loaders on order, but I'm using top loaders for now. I have basically no room but I can still get bottles in there. I'd be surprised if she can't... My frame has very little clearance...

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Originally Posted by Uni-Vibe View Post
Groovy old Centurion--maybe 1988?
+1, the Shimano brake levers rule out a 1986 (did not use Shimano levers in 86). So that makes it a 87 or 88, not sure about 89. I sure hope she has a Technomic stem considering how high it is. I'll be that old bike rides as smooth as the Roubaix.
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Mine has just enough room.



It'd be even easier if I switched to race cages instead of cobble cages...
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side loader for my rear one also. 48cm seat tube. they could always drill out the bolt holes on the cage so it has more room to sit lower.
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Not all bottle cages have the same amount of horiontal and vertical offset from the frame.
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Not all bottle cages have the same amount of horiontal and vertical offset from the frame.
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Originally Posted by midgetmaestro View Post
Mine has just enough room.



It'd be even easier if I switched to race cages instead of cobble cages...
Elite Ciussi cages solved the same problem for me. Close to the tubes and hold the bottles a bit higher than the ones I tried.

If someone knows of a better cage for this issue, let me know. (race cages instead of cobble cages...)?
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My 09' Roubaix Elite (54cm) fits two cages without any troubles.
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Thanks, I'll pass on that info. I don't know what size the frame is. Maybe she can find some cages that will work.

Originally Posted by Uni-Vibe View Post
Groovy old Centurion--maybe 1988?
1987. That's my wife, and she really likes that bike. Yes, that is a technomic stem, with plenty of insertion space to spare. A real neck saver.

Now I have to stop posting, and go touch up the rust spots on the frame.
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I am diggin' this one:

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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
perhaps one of these Monoura handle bar mounts will work for her. I have one on my RIGI and Bianchi that for some reason only have on set of bosses. since my garmin and bell are on the stem my handlebars are clean and this fits right on.

https://harriscyclery.net/product/min...mount-1033.htm

this is not quite as nice as the Bianchi I have one on but you get the idea
Nice! I have a similar set-up (see attached photo) and it works very well for me.
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I'm a pretty small, well small as in short but large as in weight rider and I think my frame is 49cm. I found some Velocage water bottles made by Velocity. They're cool because not only do they come in spiffy colors but you can actually adjust where they sit on your frame. They slide up and down so you're not limited to the holes on most water cages. In the photos the frame of the cage is orange and it slides up and down on the aluminum colored brackets.




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Cool cages.

I've got Arundel Sideloaders on mine. I don't really need them (my frame's a 58), but figured they would be nice to use for my right hand since I'd probably drop bottles if I used my left hand. They have alternate mounting holes so you can put them a bit higher -- good for small frames, but also kinda nice if you're tall and far away from your bottles.
https://www.arundelbike.com/sideloader.html?p=1.1.1.3
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