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So I got clipless spd pedals and shoes and now I'm in pain

Old 08-10-10, 06:02 PM
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So I got clipless spd pedals and shoes and now I'm in pain

I got some entry level affordable pedals and shoes. Now let me explain a little....

I experience pain in my left at about 90 minutes. I left the country for a month and just got back last week. So I went for a ride this morning and at about 20 minutes I got same pain. I turned back and kept riding and pain spread to side of knee. A ligament I think. It didnt hurt to ride standing out of saddle. Anyways Before my ride I adjusted my saddle higher and forward and I lowered handlebars one spacer (1").

I know there are a lot of variables here. I went to lsb and they told me to raise saddle more. I did and it hurt same on short ride home. I'm sure my knee is still in shock and can't feel any adjustment.

My question is do you think the pedals are cause. An orthepedic surgeon in store overhead and told me to change angle of my cleat so toe points out. My cleats do not low this. What is my first step? I am also ready to goto profesional to fit me correct on bike this weekend but before I seek your advice.

Thanks.

Here are my pedals: https://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._1033468_-1___
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Old 08-10-10, 06:45 PM
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Are you sure you can't adjust the angle of the cleats on the bottom of your shoes? Usually there's some looseness when attaching the cleats.

Assuming your saddle is at the appropriate height, the problem might be that your foot is in an unnatural angle. You could try moving the cleats further back to decrease the angle.
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Old 08-10-10, 06:49 PM
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Second adjusting the cleat. It made a huge difference for my left knee. You should be able to adjust those cleats.
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so cleats do lead to problems..

here is a pic of my shoes:
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/products-...t_14750697.jpg

there are 4 holes (2x2). i can move the cleat left or right in what seems like 2 settings.
perhaps i should return my shoes and pedals...
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kind lady at lsb also mentioned float style pedals.
do those pedals conflict with my shoes?
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Originally Posted by edawggg View Post
so cleats do lead to problems..

here is a pic of my shoes:
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/products-...t_14750697.jpg

there are 4 holes (2x2). i can move the cleat left or right in what seems like 2 settings.
perhaps i should return my shoes and pedals...
Hold on. I'm going to post a pic for you.
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This is left and right shoe. Notice the cleat on the left is adjusted differently? That's the knee that was bothering me, and that's how I fixed it--

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ok, the shoe on top...looks like you just moved the cleat over
sorry, the pic is tough to tell if there is actually an angle.
i think my goal is to try to move it so the top points to 11:30 (or 12:30)
thanks so much for the pic. and your help. i really appreciate the efforts and i apologize if i am making this difficult
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The lateral/outer side of your knee started to hurt?
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Originally Posted by edawggg View Post
ok, the shoe on top...looks like you just moved the cleat over
sorry, the pic is tough to tell if there is actually an angle.
i think my goal is to try to move it so the top points to 11:30 (or 12:30)
thanks so much for the pic. and your help. i really appreciate the efforts and i apologize if i am making this difficult
There's no angle. The problem I was having was on the inside of my knee. If that's what you're having you may want to try making the adjustment similar to mine.
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Originally Posted by electrik View Post
The lateral/outer side of your knee started to hurt?
Yes, outside on my left side. Sure feels like tendon that goes into the thigh
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Originally Posted by edawggg View Post
Yes, outside on my left side. Sure feels like tendon that goes into the thigh
IT band syndrome is a possibility.

Edit: Not sure why that would develop after you switched to clipless though.
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Originally Posted by ijen0311 View Post
Hold on. I'm going to post a pic for you.
ijen...you know all the guys hold their breath when you say this...
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ijen...you know all the guys hold their breath when you say this...
and all I posted was some scuffed up shoes.
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Originally Posted by edawggg View Post
kind lady at lsb also mentioned float style pedals.
do those pedals conflict with my shoes?
Those Campus pedals have 4 degrees of float.

You should be able to angle the cleat just a bit on the bottom of your shoe. It doesn't take a lot to make a big difference.
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Originally Posted by Berg417448 View Post
You should be able to angle the cleat just a bit on the bottom of your shoe. It doesn't take a lot to make a big difference.
+1

Also it's very common to have your feet naturally point at different angles. I ended up adjusting the cleat angle on my right foot clockwise (as viewing the bottom of the shoe) more than my left foot.
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I adjusted my cleats to where my feet felt like they had ability to move left and right while clipped in comfortably. Aligned symmetrically doesn't mean squat if your legs naturally point in other directions.

As per seat height try pedaling with your heels on the pedals, raise it to about the maximum height you can w/o wobbling your hips to pedal. But this is assuming your seat is really below it's ideal point.
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Originally Posted by edawggg View Post
Yes, outside on my left side. Sure feels like tendon that goes into the thigh
On the left shoe, try either of these at different times.

Move the cleat inwards(towards the big toe).
Rotate the cleat so your toe points outwards slightly.

I doubt it is IT band syndrome, it could look like that because the Q-angle was decreased enough to irritate the IT Band.

Whatever you do, don't ignore the pain.. you could end up with a chronic "syndrome"
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I'll agree that repositioning the cleat can be the way to go, but just don't change it too far, as this can exacerbate the problem. You may need to change the setting so that you are more toe out (ie toes pointing VERY slightly away from the bike) to alleviate the pressure on the knee. Do the adjustment in small increments until it feels right. If this doesn't work, you may need wedges (to change the angle at which your foot sits relative to the pedal), and if this is the case it is essential that you get your bike professionally fitted. I saw on a post somewhere that there are a couple of systems that are used to do this - eg Retul, A+ DynamicBikeFit (there are a cuople more I think), and although pricey, are well worth it in the long run.

Good luck with getting this problem fixed so you can go out and enjoy your rides.

(PS - ljen - how is the Cervelo going?)
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Originally Posted by edawggg View Post


An orthepedic surgeon in store overhead and told me to change angle of my cleat so toe points out.


Here are my pedals: https://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._1033468_-1___
Never never ever adjust your cleats to "make" your knees or feet do anything. the cleat adjustment and float is there so that your feet are allowed to do whatever they want. The pain is because the cleats are adjusted in such a way as to restrict the natural movement. No one over the internet can fix this for you.

Also consider varus/vulgus wedges and Q adjustment when finding your perfect fit.
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I followed provided advice and adjusted my left Cleat and raised my seat (using heels) and went for a spin around block and no pain. [knock on wood].

I'm doing a 100 mile ride in sept and was seriously freaking out. I appreciate any and all input from all on This thread. Thanks so much.
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WOW! Exact same thing happened to me. I rode clipless for a year fine then the plastic pieces wore out and I had them replaced. This is where I started having problems after a few days all of a sudden I felt pain on the inside of my knee and afterwards it felt really stiff and weird. I've been playing around with them ever since and my knee has never gone back to feeling the same... PLEASE HELP!
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Check your knee at the top of the pedal stroke and see if there is lateral movement. If there is, it can cause pain. Use cleat wedges to eliminate the movement.

It worked for me...all by myself, without a fitter.
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You always could get speedplays, they have plenty of float. I used to have knee problems, even with adjustments of the spd cleats. Not anymore
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