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Attempting to climb Mt. Evans in the morning - advice?

Old 08-11-10, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wacomme View Post
How early is early enough?
We've gone through a couple times at around 8:15-8:30 and no one was in the booth. There is a way to buy a ticket from a machine, but only for car passes.
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Nice job! When I did it, I had to concentrate on riding as slow as I possibly could, because any time my HR got even a little on the high side I got dizzy and light headed. The elevation is the crux, even for those of us acclimated to the front range (5K').

For whoever asked about what happens at noon - there's usually thunderstorms which may include high winds, hail, rain, and lightning, and it can be really cold. You're above tree line for about 10 miles. There's no where to hide from the elements. The pavement is poor and there's no guard rail, so you can't just ride fast to get away from the weather-- it can be hard to control the bike in those conditions. The weather can change from OK to horrible in minutes, and it comes in from the west, you're riding up the east side of the mountain, so you might not know it's coming in until it's on you.

It's a pretty serious ride. Good fun though. This thread is making me want to do it this weekend!
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I ride it once a year, always in August, have not done it yet though this year. Would be fun to get a group together, perhaps form this forum, and ride it. Next time I do ride it,I will make arrangements to get a lift down, the road is horrible and will pound you to death coming down. vlygrl is right on about the weather, it's amazing how fast things can change.
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god yea h the terrible terrible roads make what should, on account of the views and the speed and the great curves, be a world class descent completely miserable.

i tend to let out about 4 quick taps of air from my tires to soften them up a little for the descent. helps a lot.
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Well, somebody awesome helped me fix the corrupted file on my Garmin (won't say who unless they want credit so others don't bombard them with similar requests). Not everything is right on it but it gets the point across. Like I said before, the GPS died a bit before I stopped climbing. I stopped a little above Summit Lake at just over 13,000ft.

https://connect.garmin.com/activity/44176759
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Originally Posted by badhat View Post
god yea h the terrible terrible roads make what should, on account of the views and the speed and the great curves, be a world class descent completely miserable.

i tend to let out about 4 quick taps of air from my tires to soften them up a little for the descent. helps a lot.
Hmm...
I should be making my yearly ascent up Mt Evans soon and will try this out. I detest that descent for the reasons you mention.
If I could arrange for a vehicle to take me down the mountain ...
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie View Post
Hmm...
I should be making my yearly ascent up Mt Evans soon and will try this out. I detest that descent for the reasons you mention.
If I could arrange for a vehicle to take me down the mountain ...
What?
You don't enjoy THUNK!...THUNK!...THUNK!...THUNK!...THUNK!...THUNK!...THUNK!...?
I really enjoy the EL to IS part of the descent.
But for the first half, I think the ideal solution would be to have someone waiting at the top with a
full-suspension mtn bike to swap for your road bike.
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Hmm... I could ride my mountain bike up it. That would be interesting.
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie View Post
Hmm... I could ride my mountain bike up it. That would be interesting.
On one of my ascents last year, I rode a rigid frame mtn bike with 1.25" slicks and a suspension seatpost, and it worked quite well:

https://www.dim.com/~ryoder/MtEvans/IMGP0073.jpg

On one of my ascents this year, I rode the same bike, but put 1.9" semi-slicks on it, just to soften the jarring in the front end.
About half way up I was *really* hating those soft squishy tires.
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the lower half of the descent the roads arent as bad but theres almost always a damn headwind on that last 5 miles from the chicago creek bend so you actually have to push down to idaho springs when all you wanna do is coast and enjoy your victory.

my wife was a follow car for the race this year so i got a ride down, didnt miss the descent at all.

trail ridge is a fun descent, provided you manage to hit it on a low traffic day and dont get stuck behind an RV for the whole thing.
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie View Post
Hmm... I could ride my mountain bike up it. That would be interesting.
Saw a couple of people on mtn bikes riding up yesterday. Seems like a pretty good idea to me
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Originally Posted by Copperhed51 View Post
Saw a couple of people on mtn bikes riding up yesterday. Seems like a pretty good idea to me
Did you see this guy?

https://www.dim.com/~ryoder/ygbsm.jpg

Seriously, I took that photo this year on Mt Evans above 12,000'.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
Did you see this guy?

https://www.dim.com/~ryoder/ygbsm.jpg

Seriously, I took that photo this year on Mt Evans above 12,000'.
Holy crap, no I didn't see him. While descending I saw one guy wearing an oxygen mask. I kinda wished I could borrow it from him. Here's a little pic I snipped off my helmet cam video while I was taking a break at Summit Lake trying to decide what to do.

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Originally Posted by badhat View Post
the lower half of the descent the roads arent as bad but theres almost always a damn headwind on that last 5 miles from the chicago creek bend so you actually have to push down to idaho springs when all you wanna do is coast and enjoy your victory.

my wife was a follow car for the race this year so i got a ride down, didnt miss the descent at all.

trail ridge is a fun descent, provided you manage to hit it on a low traffic day and dont get stuck behind an RV for the whole thing.
We were passing a long line of cars on the left during the steepest descent on trail ridge. I asked Curt if he wanted to hang back and let them get ahead. His response was that we should pass them. So we did.
I think we were going around 50 mph. That was awesome.
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trail ridge was the site of what was without a doubt the most rerrifying descent i've ever experienced. we rode it last spring, it was open the whole way but had huge 15ft snowdrift on either side of the road... got to the rock cut and the fog (clouds really) rolled in THICK. like zero visibility thick, and the temp dropped to probably low 30s.

theres a ton of no guard rail, plunge to your death exposure up there too, so there we are, flying blind, riding brakes so hard we're losing feeling in our hands, which are freezing as our gloves are soaked through from the humidity, potholes coming out of nowhere, cars honking at us, but we cant do anything about it cuz we cant see enough to see if theres pulloffs for us....

it was pretty terrifying.
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Holy crap!
I couldn't imagine trying to do that ride in those conditions.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
Did you see this guy?

https://www.dim.com/~ryoder/ygbsm.jpg

Seriously, I took that photo this year on Mt Evans above 12,000'.
There's at least 2 unicyclers I see on a somewhat common basis and that looks like one of the two, though the few times I've seen him, he's been w/ out a helmet (unlike the dude (or maybe girl?) in that pic). But, if it's the same guy, then that unicycle wheel is 36 freakin' inches.

Impressive.
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Originally Posted by celticfrost View Post
There's at least 2 unicyclers I see on a somewhat common basis and that looks like one of the two, though the few times I've seen him, he's been w/ out a helmet (unlike the dude (or maybe girl?) in that pic). But, if it's the same guy, then that unicycle wheel is 36 freakin' inches.

Impressive.
Its a dude.
He passed me descending just after I climbed up out of a hairpin turn.
I stopped, dug out the camera, put it into full zoom, then waited for him to pass below me.
That is why the image is so fuzzy.
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trail ridge was the site of what was without a doubt the most rerrifying descent i've ever experienced. we rode it last spring, it was open the whole way but had huge 15ft snowdrift on either side of the road... got to the rock cut and the fog (clouds really) rolled in THICK. like zero visibility thick, and the temp dropped to probably low 30s.

theres a ton of no guard rail, plunge to your death exposure up there too, so there we are, flying blind, riding brakes so hard we're losing feeling in our hands, which are freezing as our gloves are soaked through from the humidity, potholes coming out of nowhere, cars honking at us, but we cant do anything about it cuz we cant see enough to see if theres pulloffs for us....

it was pretty terrifying.
I get enough idiots passing me on double yellow lines descending Golden Gate, portions of Stove Prairie Rd., etc while I'm going 10mph over the speed limit in ideal weather conditions and even that is terrifying enough for me.

I'm not doing any of these climbs and subsequent crazy descents unless the predicted forecast is a good one!
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I am considering trying this climb again in a week or two if I can find the time away from work and the weather cooperates. By that time, I will actually have the proper attire for when I get near the summit and I'll be more acclimated to the altitude. I know what I'm getting into a lot better now and am pretty sure if I get too dizzy, I can take a bunch of breaks and make it all the way. I didn't find the descent too terribly bumpy but it wasn't perfectly smooth until the Echo Lake - Idaho Springs portion. I am really afraid of heights so the descent above the tree line really freaked me out. Good times. I need to try to edit together some video clips of me talking to myself and of the descent. Should hopefully find some time today.
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Well, somebody awesome helped me fix the corrupted file on my Garmin (won't say who unless they want credit so others don't bombard them with similar requests). Not everything is right on it but it gets the point across. Like I said before, the GPS died a bit before I stopped climbing. I stopped a little above Summit Lake at just over 13,000ft.

https://connect.garmin.com/activity/44176759
That's a cool HR graph, but the average seems way off...
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Mount Evans altitude is refreshing. If you don't go too anaerobic, the scenery and mountain goats are spectacular fun.
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That's a cool HR graph, but the average seems way off...
Yeah, the average was 180 when the GPS batteries died. When recovering the data, it threw a few of the things off. Avg speed, Avg HR, even distance...but the elevation gain, map, graphs, and time all look right to me. I think my avg speed right before the gps shut off was under 8mph. It was steadily dropping as time went on. I started fairly strong but was definitely wearing down and trying to stay at 180 or less on the HR no matter what speed that meant. I didn't even have my current speed displayed on the unit because I didn't want to know
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Originally Posted by bajadock View Post
Mount Evans altitude is refreshing. If you don't go too anaerobic, the scenery and mountain goats are spectacular fun.
Me and a friend sprinted the last couple switch backs last year. It gets easier as you ride it more. IMHO.
However, I have not raced up it like badhat but I am thinking of doing the running race next year.
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Got part 1 of my video edited. Didn't spend much time on it but if anybody is curious what the climb up Evans is like, this might help. I apologize for rendering it in 4:3 format. Windows Live Moviemaker defaults to that and I forgot to change it. Quality should improve to 720p after a while once youtube processes it completely. I'll work on the rest of the climbing video and a descent video as time permits for those who care.

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