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Choosing a first race bike?

Old 08-15-10, 12:08 AM
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Choosing a first race bike?

Hey guys, im new to the forum and its good to be here!

Ok ill try to explain the pickle im in. I am new to road cycling and im looking for a bike. I have been mainly looking at the Trek 2.3, but recently stumbled upon the Cannondale SIX CARBON 6 and the SYNAPSE CARBON 6. The Trek 2.3 is outfitted with 105 all around but has a aluminum frame. Both the Cannondales are outfitted with Tiagra and both have a Sora front derailleur, but both also have carbon frames. I am going to use the bike to enter into some races so i am looking for more of a race geometry. The 2.3 does have the better components, but will the aluminum frame hurt me in a race? And the other way around, the Cannondales have a carbon frame, but will their components do no good in a race? Please everybodys help will be greatly appreciated, and also if you have a better suggestion for a racing bike please share.

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Alu frame or lower components is not going go hurt you in a race at the cat 5 level. Get a bike you won't be heartbroken over or troubled financially of it is destroyed.
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I can make a million suggestions for better "racing" bikes, but I would need to know your budget.

Of the bikes you listed, I would go with the Trek. Comprising your components for entry level carbon isn't going to do you any good.

Also, keep in mind that the Trek (and the other two..even the Synapse) will be more than enough for a first time racer. You don't need a Dogma, or a Madone to be competitive in the 5's.
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Originally Posted by umd
Alu frame or lower components is not going go hurt you in a race at the cat 5 level. Get a bike you won't be heartbroken over or troubled financially of it is destroyed.
Oh, so you are being nice!

To the OP: generally higher class aluminum is better than entry level carbon. Maybe check out the CAAD-9? You could get a CAAD-9 5 for 1500 MSRP with 105, or a CAAD-9 6 with Rival for 1700MSRP (this bike would be more than enough to be sufficient for many years). The prices will most likely be lower at your local Cannondale dealer because the model year is over.
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Race the bike you have now.
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi
Race the bike you have now.
+ a million.

it's not about the bike. as long as your bike functions fine, it is fine to race.
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I dunno, it didn't sound to me like the OP had a road bike.
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Originally Posted by umd
I dunno, it didn't sound to me like the OP had a road bike.
good point.
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Yeah you guys are right, I dont own a road bike at the point. I plan on racing with the bike and later moving to a higher category. And with racing comes serious training so ill be putting some miles on it. And my budget is under 2k.

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I know nobody wants to hear this, but I'm going to go with a bike from bikesdirect. It will be carbon, and a full ultegra or dura ace setup. For the money, I can't justify not doing it.
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Aren't you getting a little ahead of yourself? Do you know for sure if you like road cycling?

I think making plans about racing and serious training before even owning a road bike is a little silly.
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Ah, ok; "new to road cycling" made me think that he already had an entry-level bike of some kind and was just looking for N+1.

I'd say to get something cheap and put the rest towards a fit session, entry fees, and replacement parts.
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Originally Posted by umd
Alu frame or lower components is not going go hurt you in a race at the cat 5 level. Get a bike you won't be heartbroken over or troubled financially of it is destroyed.
Good advice umd.

You will crash sooner or later. (Former Cat 4 - 1977).
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maybe some training and group riding before the racing?
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Keep in mind since you don't even have a bike yet i'm gonna assume your gonna need all kinds of accessories to go along with it. Pedals, helmet, pump, cycle computer of some sort, bottle cages, bibs/shorts, a few jerseys, etc. It gets very expensive, real fast. The fact you don't even have a bike yet and already plan on racing is getting a little ahead of yourself.
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It gets very expensive, real fast.
The initial outlay is expensive, but after that, it's not too bad. Food and consumables like tubes n' chain lube are the only recurring expenses that you can't get away from.
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi
The initial outlay is expensive, but after that, it's not too bad. Food and consumables like tubes n' chain lube are the only recurring expenses that you can't get away from.
with other consumables such as new tires every 2-3k miles, new chain every 2-3k miles, and new cassette every three chains
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi
The initial outlay is expensive, but after that, it's not too bad. Food and consumables like tubes n' chain lube are the only recurring expenses that you can't get away from.
Don't forget expenses like entry fees, gas money for getting to races, food and lodging, and beer to celebrate/drown sorrows afterward.
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with other consumables such as new tires every 2-3k miles, new chain every 2-3k miles, and new cassette every three chains
Ah, yup. To someone who's used to buying a whole bike for $150, that seems really expensive.
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi
Ah, yup. To someone who's used to buying a whole bike for $150, that seems really expensive.
I seem to recall spending almost $150 on beer after a race in east Texas. The SBC-RRT "Wild Bunch" kicked some serious ass that day (the locals never knew what hit 'em) and we celebrated afterward accordingly.

Yeah, racing can get expensive!
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Originally Posted by Blackdays
Aren't you getting a little ahead of yourself? Do you know for sure if you like road cycling?

I think making plans about racing and serious training before even owning a road bike is a little silly.
Bingo!!! I laugh when I see posts on a new bike that the brand new rider wants to do centuries and races! You haven't ridden one mile and you know you want to do a hundred?
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Originally Posted by Blackdays
Aren't you getting a little ahead of yourself?
Originally Posted by Blackdays
I think making plans about racing and serious training before even owning a road bike is a little silly.
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maybe some training and group riding before the racing?
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The fact you don't even have a bike yet and already plan on racing is getting a little ahead of yourself.
You guys are being a bit silly here. Someone could be interesting in cycling for the purpose of racing. If that is their motivation for getting into road cycling, who are you to judge it? It's not like he is saying he is going to pick up a road bike and enter a race the next day.
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Originally Posted by longbeachgary
Bingo!!! I laugh when I see posts on a new bike that the brand new rider wants to do centuries and races! You haven't ridden one mile and you know you want to do a hundred?
Nobody said anything about centuries.
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+1 to everything umd has said.

As to the op: try out a CAAD9-4. Its lightweight aluminum and a lot of people race them. Its in your budget and leaves you with some money to cover accesories, repairs, etc.
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Thanks you guys who are actually helping me out. I have always had a bike, just not a road bike, and i love to ride. Only recently did I start riding on a stationary. I got up to the point where I started doing 50 mile rides at a 17-18mph pace about 4 times a week. So i thought hey why dont i actually get a road bike instead of sitting around on the stationary. I have always had the other accessories in mind, like pedals, shoes, shorts, etc. But I was just trying to get an opinion on the those bikes. And racing is just something that draws me towards the sport, like you said umd, its not like id be racing the next day.
Yeah... but back to the reason why i was here. I thing iv boiled it down to the caad9 5 and the trek 2.3.
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