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What do you Roadies think about Zipp 404 clinchers?

Old 08-25-10, 06:45 PM
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What do you Roadies think about Zipp 404 clinchers?

Badass no??
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Old 08-25-10, 06:55 PM
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I have the older design from last year (alu braking surface). Amazing wheels. Solid, aero, fast, not really all that heavy (they're 1650 grams or so with stock hubs, mine has a Powertap on the rear so it's heavier). The newer ones are really badass, all CF, different profile.

Love mine. I also have Zipp 404 tubulars which are lighter. I like the ride of the clinchers better.
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I think they're heavy and expensive and HED makes a much better wheel for much less money.
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Badass, regardless of weight and cost.
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I liked mine but sold them within a month of having them and went with tubulars. If you are racing then tubulars are the way to go. If you aren't racing then 404 clinchers are an awesome wheelset.
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Old 08-25-10, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatballer View Post
I think they're heavy and expensive and HED makes a much better wheel for much less money.
They're not heavy at all for 58mm clinchers. They have cool dimples. They are pricey. They're Zipps. They may be above your pathetic Fred pay grade. So it goes. The Zipp clinchers are great for racing in my view for most race courses. Not as good if you're doing a ton of climbing. But for crits/rolling courses they rock.
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I want some, at least with the aluminum braking surface.
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The new all CF 404's are the Schwag.
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Guy at the LBS yesterday said they had a pretty hefty backorder going on right now, at least.
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Haha you suckers fell for it...

(see https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ycling-clothes )
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Originally Posted by chadwick View Post
Guy at the LBS yesterday said they had a pretty hefty backorder going on right now, at least.
Backorders always come to an end. After that it's eBay.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer View Post
I think they're heavy and expensive and HED makes a much better wheel for much less money.
+1, not to mention the better aerodynamics
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Wow those 60mm Hed clinchers are light. Anybody here actually ride them?
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mmm ebay

living where I do I should just get a 808 and a 1080
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
They're not heavy at all for 58mm clinchers. They have cool dimples. They are pricey. They're Zipps. They may be above your pathetic Fred pay grade. So it goes. The Zipp clinchers are great for racing in my view for most race courses. Not as good if you're doing a ton of climbing. But for crits/rolling courses they rock.
stop your pipe dreams, your fred ass is not going fast enough to take advantage of them.

also, the Zipps are rather fragile, so i hear. much better as race-only wheels.
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich View Post

also, the Zipps are rather fragile, so i hear. much better as race-only wheels.
They seem to be tough enough to handle the cobbles on the pro circuit.

I love mine and found them to be even more comfortable than my Mavic Kysrium SL pros. I've got the ones with the aluminum braking surface which is fine by me so I don't have to change out my brakes every time I change my wheels.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer View Post
I think they're heavy and expensive and HED makes a much better wheel for much less money.
ding ding, correct answer
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one day i will be above a fred paygrade and buy lots of nice zipps!
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Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich View Post
also, the Zipps are rather fragile, so i hear. much better as race-only wheels.
Incorrect. I ride the clinchers all the time.
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Do any of you morons actually own and ride those Heds, or is this more Internet Expert material?
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Do any of you morons actually own and ride those Heds, or is this more Internet Expert material?
a friend of a friend said he once read something about them on the interwebs but most of us have only seen photos
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Had the hed jet60's for a couple years. ('08 version)
trained on them, raced them, rode it in the rain, packed dirt, cobbles, grass, etc my weight is 165lb.

pretty tough wheels, I can vouch for them. They make a cool sound on the asphalt.
to me they were ok as long as the road was flat as I found them to be flexy. Disappointing for wheels that cost me $1200cad new.

The front hubs were pretty smooth, but I can climb at equal speed with ksyrium equipes and descend at the same speed too. so...for me, it just looked pretty. sold them few months ago.

Edit: Made no difference on the flats either
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Incorrect. I ride the clinchers all the time.
I'm going on three years of almost daily training and racing with Zipps and no problems at all with maybe 12,000 miles.
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Old 08-25-10, 08:21 PM
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I'm going on three years of almost daily training and racing with Zipps and no problems at all with maybe 12,000 miles.
Yeah, that's typical. The tubulars will occasionally detonate (cracked rims). The clincher 404s are pretty hard to break.
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when does pcad get the new 404's?
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