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Finally have my budget for new bike

Old 09-02-10, 12:33 PM
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Finally have my budget for new bike

after some discussions with SWMBO we've reached a good compromise... of course she'd like for me to spend $300 and of course I'd like to spent $3000 so we're meeting in the middle and I'm figuring my 'all-in' price to be in the $1700 range... I had to stipulate one thing that I not buy 'today' and wait til late winter/early spring (end of Feb first of Mar) time frame

this price has to include the following:

Bike (duh)
pedals
shoes
computer
seat bag
one water bottle/cage


what's the brain trust got for me?? given my timeframe for purchase it is unlikely there will be leftover '10s around... the bikes I've been considering are '11 Trek 2.1, Allez Apex, Sectuer Comp, CAAD10, Felt f75/85... any others to include?? my requirements list isn't long, I'd like to get at bare minimum a 105 eqp'd bike... I don't ~plan~ on doing centuries, the bike is going to be for fitness and fun, by my estimates my longest ride will probably be in the 30 mile range for some time... I want to leave the door open down the road for upgrades in a year or two... in this area we've got trek dealers out the wazoo, a few Spec/felt and fewer c-dale dealers...

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BMC Road Racer w/ Rival, $1700: https://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...RODUCT.ID=6950

That doesn't include the computer/shoes/pedals though, but I think it's a great deal for that price range.
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Same place different bike, Riddley Compact. 1499.
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You need to negotiate a little harder and get two water bottles and cages.

FWIW, when it comes to significant others, I find it much, much more rewarding to ask for forgiveness than permission.
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Originally Posted by SBRDude
You need to negotiate a little harder and get two water bottles and cages.

FWIW, when it comes to significant others, I find it much, much more rewarding to ask for forgiveness than permission.
I burned up all my goodwill on that method when I brought home my $8500 sled and $1200 guitar and my R/C car and......

i've played that card a few to many times...
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Is this your first road bike?

My recommendation would be

Felt 75
CAAD 9-5
Fuji Roubaix ACR 2.0

It’s really tough to go wrong in the $1,400 range ($300 for gear). All of them will be quite similar and it all depends on what lights your fire.

The sweet spot in your price range would be the CAAD 9-4 if you can find a shop that can work with you on pricing (it’s a $1700 bike).

If you are an experienced rider and know exactly what you are looking for, I would say Bikes Direct or other online stores. You get maximum value for your dollar. For example, you can get a Motobecane with aluminum/carbon frame with full SRAM Apex group for $1000. You can also get a Motobecan Le Champion Ti (full Titanium frame) with SRAM Rival for $1600! If you are not allergic to Bikes Direct and Motobecan/Windsor brands, this is where your money will go the farthest.
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Originally Posted by Palomar01
Is this your first road bike?

My recommendation would be

Felt 75
CAAD 9-5
Fuji Roubaix ACR 2.0

It’s really tough to go wrong in the $1,400 range ($300 for gear). All of them will be quite similar and it all depends on what lights your fire.

The sweet spot in your price range would be the CAAD 9-4 if you can find a shop that can work with you on pricing (it’s a $1700 bike).

If you are an experienced rider and know exactly what you are looking for, I would say Bikes Direct or other online stores. You get maximum value for your dollar. For example, you can get a Motobecane with aluminum/carbon frame with full SRAM Apex group for $1000. You can also get a Motobecan Le Champion Ti (full Titanium frame) with SRAM Rival for $1600! If you are not allergic to Bikes Direct and Motobecan/Windsor brands, this is where your money will go the farthest.
first road bike in a long time (around 91-92 was when I swapped to mt bikes)... I've tried to find a CAAD9 4 locally to no avail, well, in my size anyway... I think I could probably swing the caad9 thru mgmt scrutiny if the stars fell into place... personally I'd rather deal with a shop, even CC vs BD... though I'm pretty competent mechanically
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Most of the 2010 bikes at my LBS are heavily discounted and in short supply. I would say the time to buy is actually now and not in spring. I am curious as to why you think you need a bare minimum 105 equipped bike for 30 mile fitness rides? What are you currently riding on?
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Originally Posted by bonz50
I burned up all my goodwill on that method when I brought home my $8500 sled and $1200 guitar and my R/C car and......

i've played that card a few to many times...
Well, yes, it's a card that needs to be played judiciously. Looks like you got some good stuff, though! Just play nice for awhile and then you can hit her with the next bike when she's not looking.
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Originally Posted by joe_5700
Most of the 2010 bikes at my LBS are heavily discounted and in short supply. I would say the time to buy is actually now and not in spring. I am curious as to why you think you need a bare minimum 105 equipped bike for 30 mile fitness rides? What are you currently riding on?
believe me, its not about timing, its about finances, if it were my call I'd buy now but a compromise needed to be made... currently i'm rehabing my left knee from a severe sprain and I really can't pedal more than about a couple blocks right now... current bike is an 09 trek 3700, mostly used for putzing about the neighborhood with the kids... my ~need~ for 105/rival/etc component level is purely for growth... on most things I buy I like to be at that cusp of diminishing returns on my expenditure, most 105/rival bikes (carbon or aluminum) seem to be at that break point... which is also the same reasons I'll probably never own DA/Ult/Red/Force/Campy anything...
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Originally Posted by SBRDude
Well, yes, it's a card that needs to be played judiciously. Looks like you got some good stuff, though! Just play nice for awhile and then you can hit her with the next bike when she's not looking.
that's kinda the plan, get in for a while and upgrade down the road using that card...
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Well, if the OP wants to come in with $1400 bike with plans of upgrading later, he will probably run into issues of diminishing marginal returns. That is, it doesn’t make economic sense to upgrade components later, unless it’s just a few components like wheels.

A 105 Component group is around $1k. Wheels are at least $250 from Neuvation. More if its brand name.

I priced this out some time ago because I’m was at that point where I wanted an upgrade from my mixed group of 105/Tiagra/FSA. But after all was said and done, I was looking at close to $1500, which was within striking distance from a really good aluminum bike with Rival or full 105 group. So I had to ask myself how much I REALLY liked the frame of my existing bike. The answer was not really that much. I would rather put the $1500 into a piggy bank and add more later to get a much better bike with the complete component group I REALLY wanted.

The moral of my situation is, if you buy an entry level bike, stick with it for a while and don’t upgrade components too much. Wheels okay. A few parts here and there, like brakes, okay. But save your pennies and wait for the next jump into the $2,500-$3,500, which is the sweet spot for road bikes.
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get the bike you want.

how? show her some good faith. sell some of the other toys, you wont use them anyway once your on the bike.
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Originally Posted by Palomar01
Well, if the OP wants to come in with $1400 bike with plans of upgrading later, he will probably run into issues of diminishing marginal returns. That is, it doesn’t make economic sense to upgrade components later, unless it’s just a few components like wheels.

A 105 Component group is around $1k. Wheels are at least $250 from Neuvation. More if its brand name.

I priced this out some time ago because I’m was at that point where I wanted an upgrade from my mixed group of 105/Tiagra/FSA. But after all was said and done, I was looking at close to $1500, which was within striking distance from a really good aluminum bike with Rival or full 105 group. So I had to ask myself how much I REALLY liked the frame of my existing bike. The answer was not really that much. I would rather put the $1500 into a piggy bank and add more later to get a much better bike with the complete component group I REALLY wanted.

The moral of my situation is, if you buy an entry level bike, stick with it for a while and don’t upgrade components too much. Wheels okay. A few parts here and there, like brakes, okay. But save your pennies and wait for the next jump into the $2,500-$3,500, which is the sweet spot for road bikes.
when I say upgrade I'm not talkin parts, I'm talkin whole bike... I'll ride a nicely spec'd AL bike for a few years til I improve my fitness levels and skills then sell it off and upgrade to a newer/nicer carbon bike in the $3k range or more... part of the reason i want a nicely spec'd bike up front is so I don't ~have~ to upgrade parts while I'm improving my skills, that buys me points for a future nicer bike (if I want one) if I'm not modding it up and stuff, something I'm pretty well known for doing to just about everything I own, even the wifes minivan... haha
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I'll second the BMC recommendation. At $1,700 that SL01 is a lot of bike for the $$.
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Originally Posted by JamieElenbaas
I'll second the BMC recommendation. At $1,700 that SL01 is a lot of bike for the $$.
I have taken a close look at that bike, I'm just a bit unsure cuz there's nowhere I can test ride one before I buy... got any ideas how they compare to some of the other brands mentioned??

eta - and someone else mentioned the Ridley Compact at CC as well... seems like a lot of bike for the money also... some opinions on that one as well?? not much luck using the search here (or I'm not very good at it.)

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Since you are at the end of the season don't rush. Your time line for purchase is just what I did. For example. I bought a brand new 2007 Specialized Allez Expert (full Ultegra) in January of 2008. The bike retailed for $2500 and I got it for $1499. I may be wrong but I felt I got a killer deal. You should be able to do something similar if you are patient.

I don't know how accurate this is but have heard that the new 105's are pretty close to what my Ultegra's were when I bought mine so you should be pretty happy with that setup.

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i was in the same shoes as you and bought the SL01 from CC. i also didn't test ride but love the bike! just got it a month ago and so far it's just amazing.

go for it.
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save more money.... and buy what YOU want! 2k is what you need....shoes pedals, bottles, lights!....
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i'm sure I could stretch the budget a little if I had to... hehe...
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