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Felt? Bikes direct? First road bike thread

Old 09-03-10, 11:20 PM
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Felt? Bikes direct? First road bike thread

So I had another thread about my first road bike, but the stories changed quite a bit I basically have a few new questions
I'm looking to get a solid entry road bike for under $1000. I was initially thinking the Scott S50 at REI, but the components really aren't too great and was hoping to do a little better.
So I checked the LBS around me and really the only bike that I could find for under 1000 that seems like a good deal is the Felt Z100 here:
https://www.bicycling.com/gear/detail...2826-0,00.html
Does this seem like a good bike for the price? It's $770, weighed in at 24 lbs in the shop... and it also had microshift shifters, not shimano...
However, at that shop, the guy seemed like I knew more about the components than he did (he told me Tiagra was basically the same as Sora), and they also told me I get 1 free tune up and from then on tune-ups are $50 a pop...
Which leads me to my next question.

Would it be too crazy to get a bikes direct bike, even if I had to take it in to a LBS to get it assembled?
Like take this bike for example
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...rage_pro_x.htm
its more than $200 cheaper when you figure in tax, and has significantly better components. I could understand the LBS route if they gave me unlimited tune ups, but they aren't. Am I missing something here?

One more thing: I was looking at Trek bikes and the 1.2 has all Sora with a Tiagra rear derailleur for $750. Am I missing something, or is that a much better deal than the Felt, even if I skipped on the Motobecane?
Sorry for all the questions and such I just really hope to make a good choice...
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You can take bikes to the shop to get assembled. Talk to them ahead of time and tell them what you're considering. Also talk to a Cannondale dealer, seems that I recall a ~800 Caad9 with Tiagra.

FYI bikesdirect questions are often flamed; don't take it personally.
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The bikes you listed are all good road bikes.
You may want to spend a little more and take a look at the Shimano 105 group ...

Shimano 105/Tiagra, 27Spd Road Bike 2010 Vent Noir $699
Carbon Fork and Aluminum Frame, Ritchey package, Vuelta XRP PRO ZeroLite wheels
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ventnoir_x.htm




or consider the same Shimano 105 group on a full Carbon Frame

Shimano 105/Tiagra, 27 Speed Road Bike Windsor Carbon $997
Full Carbon Frame and Fork, Custom Wheels, FSA MegaEXO Cranks, Continental Tires, FSA Carbon Post
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...kirk_carb9.htm
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the other modobecane thread is still on the front page, the guy had the same budget as you too.
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I have a felt and I love it...
And my fiancée got an evoke sl from BD....great bike, great experience with BD.
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Here's my thoughts on a first time purchase: you have no guarantee you'll actually like it once you get it. But then again, you may love it. Which means your first bike needs to have a higher bang-to-buck ratio which buying new typically doesn't afford.

I recommend going by your LBS and getting "fitted" so to speak, to determine what size frame would be appropriate for you. Then scour Craigslist for used bikes -- this time of year is great because it's the end of the season, coming up on Christmas, and people are looking to unload things and get extra cash. I once bought a 6-month-old Scott CR1 Pro, full Dura-Ace, for $750 off Craigslist (had less than 500 miles on it). While that's not exactly a screaming deal, it's pretty darn good. My point is that you can get a full carbon frame bike, with full ultegra/force or better components, for under $1k off Craigslist if you're just patient. That way you're not blasting your budget (in case you don't like riding after all), but you're getting a great bike (in case you fall in love with the sport).
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I agree with RNAV about using a local shop to determine your size and what kind of geometry you might like (for example, the difference between felt's F and Z lines)

But e kestrel from bikes direct was my fiancees first bike...1800 for an 17lb fully carbon bike and rival? Not bad for a first bike.
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go with BD
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Originally Posted by thanson77
Would it be too crazy to get a bikes direct bike, even if I had to take it in to a LBS to get it assembled?
That's a question only the LBS can answer. The one I got my beauty at said they could order anything I can find on the net and make it an attractive deal for me. Some shops will be happy to assemble a bike for a fee, while others would be insulted. Figure out where yours stands.

Originally Posted by thanson77
I could understand the LBS route if they gave me unlimited tune ups, but they aren't. Am I missing something here?
So, once you put a few hundred miles on a new bike, the cables stretch out, etc. You bring the bike back in, have a lot of minor things adjusted, and that's kind of it for a while. On my last bike, after the initial tune-up, the next things I had to do were to replace a tire several thousand miles later, brake pads, and ultimately the cassette, because I was a dufus. A "tune up" is only really needed once, when all the components get used to life, then you deal with them individually when you need to.

More to the point, though, you should ask the shop: will they fit the bike to you, and not charge for a fitting? Will they true and retension the wheels as part of your tune up? Does the price include adjustments for the first year?

Since this is your first bike, you probably want someone else working on it, at least until you get a feel for how it works. A lot of the things you actually need to maintain on a bike turn out to be pretty easy. But there's a learning curve. On the other hand, those are the ways you benefit directly from an LBS, so if you want to tackle them on your own, or know somebody who can help you, BD isn't the worst option.

I'd avoid Craigslist for a first bike. There are great and terrible deals, but there are also people who will lie to you. In your budget, you could get a carbon fiber bike on CL with some "minor cracks and stuff," which would make the frame crumple when you hit a bump at speed.
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