The future = chip and seal
09-06-10, 03:47 PM
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The future = chip and seal
The Great State of Indiana is in the process of repaving her state highways with the worst, roughest kind of chip and seal. I've read that it cost 20% of what good hot mix asphalt paving cost. Is this the future of all our roads? I've been looking at CX bikes
09-06-10, 03:58 PM
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you could go for a MTB with drops.
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09-06-10, 04:00 PM
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We've got that on all almost all our rural and a good number of urban roads in New Zealand. You get used to it. Our roads are the ultimate test in tyre noise for new cars, some car companies such as Holden in Australia have sections of our road surfaces at their testing facilities, as the toughest challenge for NVH (Noise, vibration and harshness).
09-06-10, 04:41 PM
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If that's the case, my future road bike will be a cyclocross....or at least CX wheels/tires.
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Originally Posted by brian416
They wrecked a whole bunch of good roads here this summer with tar and chip thanks to TARP funds 
09-06-10, 04:45 PM
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We have a lot of that here in South Carolina... and the morons here were doing it before TARP.
You get used to it.
You get used to it.
09-06-10, 04:46 PM
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Chip seal is ok provided the stones aren't too jagged and the tar is covered with them. Bare tare is horrible to ride on in the summer heat.
09-06-10, 04:48 PM
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They do it here in Michigan too but it does get solid and the riding is fine. It takes a couple weeks though.
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Actually it is the highway dept's version of driveway sealer. It helps to prolong the life of the road. They add the stone to keep it from getting too slippery. I just wish they would come back in a week and take the extra stone...
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This is a long-standing tradition in Pennsylvania, on surfaces that make cobbles look smooth. When fresh, it will tend to accumulate on the lower down tube and bottom bracket...a little elbow-grease and WD-40 to help cleanup. Best avoided for a week or so, but after that, no worse than the road used to be.
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The stuff I saw in Utah never got smooth. Glad I left.
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they laid that on our time trial course locally... i think i was the only guy who was riding 25c tires.... had my best place ever after the chip/seal was laid and covered. Before that i had people askin me if i was going to TT on those balloons lol
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We get the same in Australia, when you're outside the big cities.
Try larger tyres with a bit less pressure. Conti Gp 4 Season 700 x 28 work for me.
Try larger tyres with a bit less pressure. Conti Gp 4 Season 700 x 28 work for me.
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Seems to be the way they're doing it around here too. I was riding home on a common route and I cross a street and WTF IS ALL THIS GRAVEL CRAP?? They threw down the chips and I guess left sealing it for another day. It's sealed now, but you still have the chips that didn't get sealed being tossed up by my tired. Not to mention road vibration is horrible.
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Originally Posted by brian416
They wrecked a whole bunch of good roads here this summer with tar and chip thanks to TARP funds
Just saying. Carry on.
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