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Old 09-19-10, 09:30 PM
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I sold my Fuji Roubaix RC today. Long story short the Fuji ended up being too big for me - I got the top tube length wrong. I made my money back on the sale so, back to test-rides for me. I have $1500 - $1700 to spend this time around - bike only.

Any opinions on this Ridley bike? Is the price justified with only the carbon fork and FSA carbon crank?

You guys know more about the weights of the components than I do, could anybody confirm that this bike with these components would weight 17lbs? (I'm turning into a weight weenie.)

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Consider the BMC as well. Also a great deal...

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Buy the frame alone and piece it up with whatever you want.
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That's a pretty good price for a full bike. However, if I am spending $1500 or so, I'd rather spend a little more and get carbon.

Wait another month or two if you can - you can get really good deals on Ridleys then. I got my full Damocles (with Force shifters and Rival everything else), incl Speedplay pedals, for $2400 last Nov, and an Excalibur frameset for $1500 (but with $150 worth of freebies) from biketiresdirect.com this April.

I like Ridley, needless to say. Their geo fits me perfectly.

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Consider the BMC as well. Also a great deal...

https://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...bike-6950.html
I saw this bike for the first time in person this weekend and all I can say is, 'wow'. What an amazing looking bike.
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Consider the BMC as well. Also a great deal...

https://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...bike-6950.html
That is a great deal but right away I'd have to change the crank and cassette. One thing I know I want is a Compact Crank with 12-27 cassette. It kind of breaks the deal for me because @$1700 + shipping, professional build and changing the crank and cassette, I'm going to be at the full carbon bike price range. If only I had the option of choosing the crank and cassette on competitive cyclist for this BMC, I would've really considered it. Amazing bike.

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That is a great deal but right away I'd have to change the crank and cassette. One thing I know I want is a Compact Crank with 12-27 cassette. It kind of breaks the deal for me because @$1700 + shipping, professional build and changing the crank and cassette I'm going to be at the full carbon bike price range. If only I had the option of choosing the crank and cassette on competitive cyclist for this BMC, I would've really considered it. Amazing bike.
CC lets you customize components when you purchase the bike
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Even if there aren't any drop-down menu's for the items I want to change when I go to purchase it? Like if I call them?

Because being a closeout, I was under the impression it was only available in one option...
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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post
Buy the frame alone and piece it up with whatever you want.
+1, that is what I did.

Just take into consideration that the welds are ugly as sin and I'm not too crazy about the fork.
Otherwise, solidly constructed. Crashed the bike twice and it's still riding fine (granted every crash has it's own variables, it may very well die on next crash).
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I bought the frame and am having a 6700 group put on it. I should be pickinig it up this weekend and cant' wait. I like ALU bikes!!!!
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I bought the frame and am having a 6700 group put on it. I should be pickinig it up this weekend and cant' wait. I like ALU bikes!!!!
Can you update with it's weight?

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I recall seeing some people get in on one of the specials CC had and they were allowed to make some minor changes, compact for standard crank being one of them. I would call them and find out what they will and won't do...
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Even if there aren't any drop-down menu's for the items I want to change when I go to purchase it? Like if I call them?

Because being a closeout, I was under the impression it was only available in one option...
Correct...you can either do it over the phone or put it in the notes during the online purchase. I ordered a BMC from them and switched to compact, 11-28 cassette and a 110 mm stem. CC is great to work with
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Yep, just got off the phone with Andrew from CC.

My only issue is sizing, I got it wrong once already and there aren't ANY local shops with the 2009s in stock to try... ugh.

I want to say Medium but I'm not sure I won't be better off on a Small.

The 54cm Fuji was too big with a TT length of 55cm and STA of 73°
https://2009.fujibikes.com/Road/Perfo...RoubaixRC.aspx

The 54cm Jamis felt right with an effective TT length considering the STA of 73.5° of 53.8cm
https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebik...arace_geo.html

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Go small. Im 5'10, 30"inseam, and I should have purchased a Small instead of a Medium. The 55cm TT of the Medium is just a tiny bit too long for me. Next spring if I replace the frame I would absolutely look into Small Ridley's or other frames less than 54 TT length.
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5'9", 30" inseam, and the medium BMC SL01 fits me perfectly. 90mm stem... Wish I knew more about compact then, but all is still good. Had them switch tires to Conti GP4000s and the sales guy tried to upsell me new wheels in the closeout build.
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5'9", 30" inseam, and the medium BMC SL01 fits me perfectly. 90mm stem... Wish I knew more about compact then, but all is still good. Had them switch tires to Conti GP4000s and the sales guy tried to upsell me new wheels in the closeout build.
I have a longer inseam than you guys at 33" and I'm 5'10". I don't want to have to use a 90mm stem, my Fuji was very twitchy with the 90mm stem and it wasn't confidence inspiring downhill.

I rather have a smaller bike with a 120mm stem, my inseam is 3" longer than yours, rdl456. What length stem are you using on yours?
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Yeah, either bike is a great deal. The BMC comes with the Rival crank while the Ridley does not. Both steals for 1699. I don't think you'll find Rival in a bike shop at that price. In an LBS for 1700, you'd be getting 105/Tiagra at the most, or just Tiagra. If the Fuji 55cm was too long and Jamis was just right at 53.8 then either bike in a Small 53cm would probably be best for you. I had to experiment with stem sizes on my Medium Ridley Boreas and the 90mm felt best. Both 100 and 110mm were just too much of a reach. You can't go wrong with either bike.

I purchased some inexpensive Easton stems from closeout from Jenson just to see which lengths felt best. Like $12 bucks each.
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Okay, I feel like I'm getting somewhere with this.

Do you know your Sternum Notch length from the floor up and your arm length in inches?

Edit: I think you're right about the small.

Edit 2: The Stem on the Jamis was 105mm. So if the BMC is smaller, I think I could make it work with a 110 or 120mm stem ... hrm.

Edit 3: Have you weighed it?

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Home alone so theres no one to assist with the measurements but from my best attempts, my arm length is 23 1/4 and sternum of 56 3/4. thats with CC's fit calculator measurement methods. I had quite a bit of neck and shoulder pain from trying to ride the 55cm with a 110mm stem, lessened with a 100mm, and disappeared with the 90mm stem. Remember the reach of handlebars varies greatly too. I ended up using an Easton bar with 75mm or reach.

I havent weighed it. My frame is identical to the Ridley Compact though. 17lbs isnt super light. I've seen bikes weighing alot less around these forums. I can't believe you would run a stem that long and not have discomfort but I guess your arms are longer than mine.

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Thanks a grip for taking the time. I used wrenchscience, the sternum notch and arm length measurements are probably measured the same way by both websites. My arm length is 25.5" and the Notch is 58", which is why - I think - my weight seemed balanced front-to-back test riding the Jamis. So, I have longer legs, a ~1" shorter torso but longer arms. The shorter torso and longer arms equal to ~ 1" longer reach, I think I'd actually be at a 100mm or 110mm stem.

(If there's somebody out there reading what I just conjured up with the measurements and thinks it's totally wrong let me know before I make a mistake again.)

Okay so I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger tomorrow on the BMC. I'm going to try to talk to the guys at CC again about the fit and see if I can do this w/o even test riding the bike... BIG NO-NO.. *sigh*..

(The only bikes I found locally are the Race Masters with completely different geometry.)
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CC has a 60 day, no questions asked return policy. Cannot lose... Stock setup on the medium included a 110mm stem.

Weight on my medium was about 18.75 lbs, give or take a few grams. I changed the stem to a shorter stem - 3T Team 90mm, swapped saddles to a Toupe Team, and snagged some 3T Team Ergonova bars. 18.12 lbs. at the moment. New wheels on the way, should knock it down to almost 17.5 lbs...
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Gah, I couldn't pull the trigger today. I spoke with Andrew from CC for awhile about size and he was recommending the Medium for me but that means I'm going back to the effective TT length of 55cm which is what I just sold because it had too much reach.

Yet, if I get the small, apparently the seat to bar drop is going to be very aggressive. I'm trying to find out how many spacers the OEM steerer tube accepts uncut, if you guys know how many mm it can hold, lmk.

Ideally I want 29" from the center of the BB to the top of the seat. If I could use the HT length and the amount of spacers in mm I can stack on the steerer, I might have a better idea of where I'll be.
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1200cycles, Andrew is sort of ok. I just wonder why u say that the fuji was wrong, u were too long with a 9 cm stem? thats super short for a guy your size. Im around your size with like 30 inches inseam and Im using a medium. THere is a big chance that your problem is not that you picked the wrong size but maybe u got the wrong set up since who knows when and you feel like too long.

I have used both, the ridley compact and the bmc u are asking for. In both u have to go medium. If you go small in the bmc or the ridley it will be too short, but again i believe your problem is setup the position in the machine or your style or something.

I base my assumption in the fact that I'm around your size, second my inseam is around 30 inches too, the other issue i see is that u say that u want 29 inches from the center of the BB to the top of the saddle?? that's off like 1 inch of what i use. So i really dont see why u are too long with the fiji that was even shorter than the bmc.

There's the picture of my ride, medium, the stem is 11 centimeters but is not that low due to the fact that my belly is interfering big time, so im using a few spacers. U can get an idea of how it should look like. (actually i should put a 11.5 stem or lower the stem a little bit)

Yaniel is around our size but he is using a large, he got fitted a few months ago so no idea if he changed the 9 cm stem he was using for something else. Probably yaniel can add some input.

The other thing is that the fuji does not compare to the bmc, and if your riding is twitchy with the bmc then something is wrong with you and the setup u have or something else but not the bike, the bmc rides like over rails all the time, the fuji who knows, probably u use the stem upwards, that makes the bike do weird stuff if your skills or the bike are not as good.

Yaniel u there?
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You know, Ultraman, you could be right.

The set-up could have just been off because I never got fit on the Fuji. The guy I bought it off of was the same height as me, 5'10" - inseam I'm not sure - but I ended only changing it slightly. Also, he used clipless pedals whereas I changed the pedals to toe-clips and used shoes with very thin soles which probably stretched my legs out but that's a different issue. That's a seat-height issue. If I had used clipless, it would've brought my legs up a bit as opposed to using toe-clips with shoes that have thin soles. The seat height was at 30", I'm sorry about the typo, if anything I had brought it down 1 or 2mm from that, not to 29".

On your bike, which handle bar is that and how much reach does it have? Because I'm starting to notice handlebars with very little reach where the hoods are almost level with the bar going through the stem. That's what I need more than anything. I could probably use the medium if I could bring the hoods closer, my only issue was being stretched on the hoods on the Fuji and if you look at that bike, using the Ultegra brake levers, it has huge hoods and the bar itself is big aswell.

But again, test riding the 52cm Garmin Team Issue today, it felt a lot better than the 54cm Fuji that's for sure. The top tube was 53.5mm with a 90mm stem and with a couple adjustments of the seat height, I was already positioned VERY comfortably on the hoods and even more-so on the handlebars.
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