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Old 12-21-11, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen View Post
...I don't know if REI has trained sales personnel for that.
REI is the only place I'll go for hiking and mountain climbing equipment. I've tried the rest, and REI blows them away - particularly in terms of the employee's hands-on knowledge of the products, their customer service, and their returns policy.

But I've tried 3 separate REIs for cycling equipment and advice - and they can't hold a candle to a decent LBS.

Yes, I know that there are big differences between individual stores - but my point is that it would be wise to research purchases extensively before deciding to shop for bikes at REI.
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Old 12-21-11, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by I <3 Robots View Post
105 according to the Total Cycling chart is 2624. Rival is 2244, then minus the weight of the Rival crank from the Force. The Rival CAAD has a pretty decent drop in weight over the 105 model.

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REI is the only place I'll go for hiking and mountain climbing equipment. I've tried the rest, and REI blows them away - particularly in terms of the employee's hands-on knowledge of the products, their customer service, and their returns policy.

But I've tried 3 separate REIs for cycling equipment and advice - and they can't hold a candle to a decent LBS.

Yes, I know that there are big differences between individual stores - but my point is that it would be wise to research purchases extensively before deciding to shop for bikes at REI.
I know. I was trying to be "gentle" about it my 'department store vs LBS comparison'.
(And I totally agree with you.)

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Originally Posted by twentysomething View Post
I'm 6'2" with a 33' inseam. I wonder if I could ride a 56? I currently have a 58 Synapse and 58 Madone BUT....

REI (I know, I know) has taken a CAAD 10 frame and built it up with 105 components and Easton wheels and its $1,100. Seems too good to be true but it was a replacement frame someone didn't want. Just don't know if I can do a 56.
Agree with others about REI, but that price is pretty good. In your shoes I'd consider test riding to get a sense of the fit. If that was OK, buy it in the knowledge that they'll definitely let you return it if you're not satisfied. Alternatively, I'm sure you could sell it for $1,100 too.
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Old 12-21-11, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen View Post
Well, you have to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges. Besides frames, there are groupsets to consider (full 105 is about a pound heavier than Dura Ace. You have mixed 105 which is going to be even heavier than full 105). Wheelsets, tires, saddle, bars and even skewers make big differences.

My CAAD9 fully loaded (cages, computer, micro pump,
empty bottles, loaded Lezyne Micro Caddy
) is 18.5lbs.

105 seems to be 2,481g.
Dura-Ace 7900 is 2087g.
That alone is worth 394g or .86 lbs.

[You'll find a lot of sub-16lbs CAAD9's with some as low as 13lbs @ WW.]
Uh, you weren't comparing apples to apples either. And if you check the chronology of the posts you'll understand that I was commenting on bike you linked to, not on your personal bike.

The photo in said link shows a bike with no pedals (kinda hard to ride without them). If the stated weight, 17.08 lbs. is without pedals then it's a bit easier to believe. But it still doesn't seem right. I'll stay with my original statement that the weight quoted in that link is probably for a very small frame.

I know that people get off on talking about how light their bikes can be. I was talking about what my bike weighs when I get on it to ride. Yes, the computer weighs a couple of grams. I keep some tools & gear on my person, and for the majority of my riding I don't even take a water bottle.
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Originally Posted by on the path View Post
I'll stay with my original statement that the weight quoted in that link is probably for a very small frame.
If you would've read the link, you'd see that it was for a 54cm.
Is that your definition of "very small"?

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Originally Posted by 2ndGen View Post
If you would've read the link, you'd see that it was for a 54cm.
Is that your definition of "very small"?
The body of the article doesn't really address the weight issue. I suppose the test bike had pedals. I still find the stated weight to be problematic.

You probably know that Cannondale does not claim total bicycle weights in their advertising and they are very clear as to why they don't. Even though the article is about a Cannondale bike, the lack of any clarity as far as how the stated weight of the bike was arrived at, is precisely why Cannondale doesn't make claims about the weight of their bikes. And this is one of the things that I appreciate about Cannondale.
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Originally Posted by on the path View Post
The body of the article doesn't really address the weight issue. I suppose the test bike had pedals. I still find the stated weight to be problematic.

You probably know that Cannondale does not claim total bicycle weights in their advertising and they are very clear as to why they don't. Even though the article is about a Cannondale bike, the lack of any clarity as far as how the stated weight of the bike was arrived at, is precisely why Cannondale doesn't make claims about the weight of their bikes. And this is one of the things that I appreciate about Cannondale.
So would that be a yes or a no?

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..it was a high of 67 F here in Durham, NC area today...but, it was raining...I didn't feel like taking a chance in ruining my wheels...
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Old 12-21-11, 11:06 PM
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..it was a high of 67 F here in Durham, NC area today...but, it was raining...
Same deal here. It got up to 65 in WV, but rainy.
Still, it's been surprisingly mild for this time of year.
I was itching to get a CX bike, but will be MTBing it this winter.
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Hey guys, I recently got myself a great craigslist find, a 2011 CAAD10 5 105! I'm super excited for winter to be over so I can start putting some miles on it. I have a set of easton wheels to replace the stock wheels. Looking to replace the stem, bars, and seatpost to lighten the bike up and personalize it. Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Triaxtremec View Post
Hey guys, I recently got myself a great craigslist find, a 2011 CAAD10 5 105! I'm super excited for winter to be over so I can start putting some miles on it. I have a set of easton wheels to replace the stock wheels. Looking to replace the stem, bars, and seatpost to lighten the bike up and personalize it. Any suggestions?
You can't tell us you got a score without telling us how much you paid for it!

And, congrats! Welcome to The Fraternity!
Of course, that membership is conditional (pics please!).

Stem/Bars/Post, I went full carbon.
If your goal is weight savings first,
aluminum is for you (and it's cheaper).
My goal was making my CAAD9 more comfortable.
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Originally Posted by twentysomething View Post
I'm 6'2" with a 33' inseam. I wonder if I could ride a 56? I currently have a 58 Synapse and 58 Madone BUT....

REI (I know, I know) has taken a CAAD 10 frame and built it up with 105 components and Easton wheels and its $1,100. Seems too good to be true but it was a replacement frame someone didn't want. Just don't know if I can do a 56.
First, I'm guessing that you meant a 33" inseam.

I'm 6'2" and have about the same inseam. I had a 58cm CAAD9 and had to move up in size. Granted, for me it was more due to head tube length since I ride with only 6cm of bar drop, but both of your present bikes have taller head tubes than the 58cm CAAD9; the 56cm version would be shorter still. The CAAD frame is sweet, but only if it fits.
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen View Post
You can't tell us you got a score without telling us how much you paid for it!

And, congrats! Welcome to The Fraternity!
Of course, that membership is conditional (pics please!).

Stem/Bars/Post, I went full carbon.
If your goal is weight savings first,
aluminum is for you (and it's cheaper).
My goal was making my CAAD9 more comfortable.
Thanks, I got the bike for $450! Pics to come, its at the shop getting my wheels swapped out and new bar tape put on.
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officially drinking the kool-aid! rode the caad10 105, red, and rival today and will be getting the 5 in january


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Thanks, I got the bike for $450! Pics to come, its at the shop getting my wheels swapped out and new bar tape put on.
wow that is a deal!
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Originally Posted by Triaxtremec View Post
Thanks, I got the bike for $450! Pics to come, its at the shop getting my wheels swapped out and new bar tape put on.
$450? Incredible deal if it's in good condition. What size? If you say 58 I'll be jealous.
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officially drinking the kool-aid! rode the caad10 105, red, and rival today and will be getting the 5 in january


Drink up. It's yummy
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Thanks, I got the bike for $450!
Ride it like you stole it. Actually, it seems like somebody did..
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Ride it like you stole it. Actually, it seems like somebody did..
My friend bought a Specialized Allez full SRAM Force from ebay for $550.......
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Thanks, I got the bike for $450! Pics to come, its at the shop getting my wheels swapped out and new bar tape put on.
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..wow!..a CAAD 10 5 for $450?!..what size?...can you tell us why the seller was selling it for such a low price?..any damage, dents, etc., maybe stolen?..haha

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officially drinking the kool-aid! rode the caad10 105, red, and rival today and will be getting the 5 in january


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