Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

6' 2" riders on 56cm frames? Also observations on frame sizing

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

6' 2" riders on 56cm frames? Also observations on frame sizing

Old 09-22-10, 01:23 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SteelCan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: So. Jersey
Posts: 596

Bikes: LeMond Reno

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
6' 2" riders on 56cm frames? Also observations on frame sizing

The other thread about cyclists in the 5' 9" range and the frame sizes they ride got me curious.
Any 6' 2" riders on 56cm frames? (me a gangly 6 2 w/long arms)

Background (if interested in more verbiage)
After 7K mi of hard core riding ("A" group rides), I went from a 61cm frame w/spacers to a shorter, lower stem and NO spacers. (Took a year for my lower back and hamstrings to get comfortable)
After 13K mi, I gladly went from the 61cm frame (60cm TTube and TALL HeadTube) to a 58cm frame (Trek 5500) 57.1cm TTube and short/low HeadTube) no spacers and a 105mm -6 stem
AND
I feel I could still go lower (currently using a shallow-drop compact bar, which I like - even with my big hands - for the continuous brake lever access in the drops) Probably going to get a -10 90mm stem and see how that feels. (8mm lower). I saw a -20 90mm available online but thought that would be too much (24mm lower)

However if I ever was in the market for a new bike, I'd consider a 56 with a 130mm stem.
(Hincapie who is listed at 6 3 but is more like 6 2 (when standing next to him) has ridden 57 and currently a 58cm road frame. Spartacus who is 6 1", rides a 58 road bike.

Frame Geometry observations:
The geometry on 58cm frames (compared Scott Addict and Specialized SL3) is pretty standard amongst most of the racing frames when it comes to the diamond. (seat tube and head tube angles are 73 and 73.5 respectively and the TTube is usually 58) Only marginal differences are the 5mm in wheelbase because of the small dif in chain stays)
The old 2001 Trek 5500 is not that much different. 73/73.8 angles respectively w/57.1 TTube and 993mm wheel base. (3mm shorter trail vs. the SL3 accounts for half of that difference)

Last edited by SteelCan; 09-22-10 at 01:34 PM.
SteelCan is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 01:31 PM
  #2  
Live to ride ride to live
 
Carbon Unit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 4,896

Bikes: Calfee Tetra Pro

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I am 6'3" and ride a 60CM bike with a 58.3 CM top tube. The stem is 10 CM, I could go with a 58 CM bike and probably a 9 CM stem and would feel fine, but I tend to ride more upright because I have neck pain if the bars are too low.
Carbon Unit is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:04 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,780

Bikes: Felt AR1, Cervelo S2

Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
I'm 6'0'' and I'm inbetween a 56 and a 58, apparently. As i get more flexible i'm going to be trying out longer stems and lower bars.
I was set up at the beginning of this year with a 58 & a 90mm stem.
My new bike is also a 58, but with a 57cm top tube. I'm finishing the build tonight and i'll be putting a 110mm stem on it.
Inertianinja is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:19 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
BengeBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Seattle, Washington, USA
Posts: 6,955

Bikes: 2009 Chris Boedeker custom; 2007 Bill Davidson custom; 2021 Bill Davidson custom gravel bike; 2022 Specialized Turbo Vado e-bike

Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by SteelCan
(Took a year for my lower back and hamstrings to get comfortable))
I'm 6'2" and if I rode a 58cm I would be in pain for a year, too.

I am the world's least flexible person; all my bikes are bigger. A bike shop told me last fall I was too "old fashioned." I think they just meant old.

Last edited by BengeBoy; 09-22-10 at 02:41 PM.
BengeBoy is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:27 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,606
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm 6'2" and my 58cm 2010 Supersix is really 57.5cm. With a 120mm stem sometimes I feel a little cramped when I'm on the nose of the saddle during a hard effort. Otherwise it feels just right. I might look at a 130mm stem for those kind of days. Otherwise, with lots of climbs, I like the 57.5cm frame + 120mm stem. GL
kleinboogie is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:32 PM
  #6  
Batüwü Creakcreak
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: The illadelph
Posts: 20,798
Liked 289 Times in 161 Posts
What does your position look like?

I think a lot of the time riders think they need to get lower, when really they just need to get longer. If you can get your back flat in the drops without too much bend to the elbows, you're probably low enough.
ridethecliche is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:33 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Antioch, IL
Posts: 2,330

Bikes: 2013 Synapse 4

Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
i'm 6-1 and the specialized rep put me on a 56 when i did the 2011 demo a few weeks back... i felt comfortable on it...
bonz50 is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:38 PM
  #8  
pan y agua
 
merlinextraligh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 31,408

Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike

Liked 817 Times in 423 Posts
I'm 6'1" My TCR sized M/L has 57.5cm top tube. My P2 (tt bike) has a 56cm top tube.

This weekend I rented a Specialized Allez 58cm. If they had a longer stem, I think I would have been better off with a 56cm frame, to get a lower postion.

So 56cm wouldn't be out of the question for someone 6'2"
__________________
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
merlinextraligh is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:45 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SteelCan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: So. Jersey
Posts: 596

Bikes: LeMond Reno

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BengeBoy
I'm 6'2" and if I rode a 58cm I would be in pain for a year, too. It seems to me that you have established moving to a smaller bike as an objective -- why?
Absolutely the opposite.
The change to the 58 with the shorter/lower reach (really 57.1 TTube + shorter stem + 75mm reach compact bar) is a LOT more comfortable. I can ride in the drops for 80% of a challenging 50mi group ride with greater ease.
Riding crits (where I prefer to remain in the drops) is also a lot easier. (same for handling turns, though that may have to do with the trail and offset of the 5500)

Wondering now if more (meaning shorter/lower) is even better. Concerns would include the neck strain you mention, hip angle and toe overlap from 46 shoe size on a 56 frame.
SteelCan is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:46 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Lanterne Rogue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So you've ridden more than 13,000 miles on bikes -- including "7K of hard core riding" -- and you want my advice on what size bike to ride? I'd say ride one that feels good.
Lanterne Rogue is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:46 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 116

Bikes: Trek Madone 4.7

Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts
I'm 5'11" and rode a 56cm 20 years ago but am more comfortable on a 58cm now -- sucks to get old! I have not ridden as much as I'd like this year and wind up spending most of the time on the hoods with only an occasional stint in the drops. I hope to be able to do more riding soon and will see if I can increase my time in the drops. It would not make a lot of sense getting a 56cm if I can't manage riding in the drops on a 58cm....


Brian
Raptor1956 is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:47 PM
  #12  
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
6'0 59 Frame. I am most comfortable on larger bikes if they are stock.

Its all geometry and stem length though. I actually test road a FELT in a 54 that was setup for a larger rider and was very comfortable.
StormBringer is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 02:59 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SteelCan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: So. Jersey
Posts: 596

Bikes: LeMond Reno

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Lanterne Rogue
So you've ridden more than 13,000 miles on bikes -- including "7K of hard core riding" -- and you want my advice on what size bike to ride? I'd say ride one that feels good.
Incorrect on two accounts.
I rode 14k hard-core miles over the past two years (almost 100% of those miles were challenging A rides that are used as training rides by racers)
As for the post, it was posted here to broadcast my inquiry to the masses looking for commentary and observations by other riders who have tried it.
i was not aware of your height/size, what you ride, nor your style of riding. If i was interested in your specific advice, I would have PM'd you directly, but your palpable advice is noted.
SteelCan is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 03:27 PM
  #14  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i'm 6'3" on a 60cm and I can't really imagine going smaller. I'm paranoid now that the hard core guys see me and say "why is that big dude on such a small bike" I converted my rapid3 flat bar bike to drops and its compact geometry comes out to be around 63cm effectively and it was too big, couldn't get low at all. Granted, that bike is built for endurance not speed but still
cappuccino911 is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 05:30 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 69

Bikes: '08 Specialized Roubaix

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm 6'3 and have been riding a 58cm frame but an now going to change to a 61cm. The seat post is just massively high on the 58cm and I think the 61cm will be better proportioned. I'll prob go with a shorter stem so as not to change the angle of back to arms etc. I think you can pretty much make a 58cm fit like a 61cm, just a question of seat height, stem length and spacers etc. I wouldn't feel comfortable removing all the spacers from the 58cm though
WSKB is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 06:02 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SteelCan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: So. Jersey
Posts: 596

Bikes: LeMond Reno

Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by WSKB
I'm 6'3 and have been riding a 58cm frame but an now going to change to a 61cm. The seat post is just massively high on the 58cm
The 58cm I am riding now was mfr'd in 2001 and has standard geometry, so the seat post isn't outrageous. It's exposed about the same length as the 61cm which had a compact geometry.
Hadn't given much thought to the seat post exposure. (other than notice on Trek's site that their Madone "H1" fit allows for a max seat height of 83cm on their 56cm frame. I have the seat @80cm on the 58cm (and 80.5 on the 61)
SteelCan is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 06:13 PM
  #17  
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Delaware shore
Posts: 13,568

Bikes: Cervelo C5, Guru Photon, Waterford, Specialized CX

Liked 2,290 Times in 1,524 Posts
I'm 6'0" and ride a 56. I ordered a Fuji track bike in a 56 to play around as a FG/SS but didn't know that's it measured C-T of seatpost (about a 54). The LBS offered to take it back but said I looked comfortable riding it. They were right. It feels like driving a sports car and is very quick and responsive. I wouldn't llike doing a century on it but it's fun for tight cornering, sprinting, and jusy having fun.
StanSeven is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 08:13 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,978

Bikes: Habanero Titanium Team Nuevo

Liked 187 Times in 123 Posts
I am 6'2 and ride a 61cm I hate the seat post going all the way up and it feels good but I could go smaller to maybe 59
deacon mark is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 09:37 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 624
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
5'11" and I ride a 54cm Tarmac with 120mm stem and 2 spacers and don't think it's a particularly aggressive setup. I test rode both a 56cm frame and 54cm frame before deciding on the 54.
rushbikes is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 10:11 PM
  #20  
I like beans
 
eippo1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Meffa, MA
Posts: 3,336

Bikes: Tarmac Pro, Bianchi Zurigo, Raleigh Gran Sport, Fuji Del Rey, Ironman Centurion

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
To add to the responses, i'm 6'-1" and ride a 56, which has a top tube of 56.5. This is actually a bit long for me and I need a zero setback seatpost because I additionally have a big drop from saddle to bars.
eippo1 is offline  
Old 09-22-10, 11:52 PM
  #21  
Iconoclast
 
rat fink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: California
Posts: 3,176

Bikes: Colnago Super, Fuji Opus III, Specialized Rockhopper, Specialized Sirrus (road)

Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I'm 6'1". The bike below has a 55cm top tube and 120mm stem. It is my most comfortable bike.



Not only do I prefer rind a smaller frame, but I prefer having the larger drop so much, that I wasn't fully comfortable until I got the -17 stem for that extra 2cm of saddle to bar drop.
rat fink is offline  
Old 09-23-10, 12:08 AM
  #22  
phony collective progress
 
x136's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Hoosey
Posts: 2,973

Bikes: https://velospace.org/user/36663

Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
I'm 6'2". Due to having a short torso, I've found that my ideal top tube length is 56-57cm. But with 56cm square frames (especially with the goddamn sloping toptubes that are so popular), I end up with tons of headset spacers, and a huge amount of seatpost sticking out.
__________________
x136 is offline  
Old 09-23-10, 12:10 AM
  #23  
The bus, Gus
 
mrvile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 976
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm not as tall as you guys but I fall under the same category. 5'9" on a 51. But mainly because my legs are very short.
mrvile is offline  
Old 09-23-10, 09:52 AM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
noise boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 915

Bikes: Cannondale CAAD9

Liked 498 Times in 300 Posts
I am 6' 4" with a 38.5" cycling inseam. I have a cannondale CAAD9 63cm and a 90mm stem. Not a ton of saddle to bars drop, but I am ok with it.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
BF%20Cannondale..JPG (91.7 KB, 613 views)
noise boy is offline  
Old 01-16-17, 07:58 PM
  #25  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 139
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Im really lanky with short trunk and tall inseam with saddle height being 80 cm from BB axis to top of saddle, currently ride a 58 cm Cannondale Caad 5 and thinking of getting a 56cm Caad 10. I like my seat to handlebar drop to be close to 11cm so am I pushing it to get a 56cm Cannondale? This is a good thread for bike fit pondering, Thanks guys
bikeman68 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.