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midgetmaestro 09-24-10 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Pinyon (Post 11517727)
I like my visor. I'm an over 45 year-old super-Fred, though (double-sided spd pedals, reflective tape on the back of helmet and all over shoes, two rear blinkies, etc.). I don't care about speed that much. I just like to ride on the road, and the visor really comes in handy for stuff like blocking oncoming headlights on my pre-dawn training rides before to work, shielding my prescription glasses from rain, and using it to block the sun when the sun is just about level with the traffic signal (too lazy to use my hand?).

If you want to fit in with the serious roadies, though, leave off the visor. If you don't mind being seen as a Fred, then it does not matter.

Training rides and Fred in the same paragraph? I don't think so buddy. ;) :P

save10 09-24-10 10:23 AM

helmet. no visor. I wear a cycling cap even in the summer. I'm weird like that

cyclezen 09-24-10 10:42 AM

interesting, this pops up just as there's a thread in the Geezer forum about skin problems/cancer.
when you've been exposed to sun for almost 30yrs, I guess it's not a big issue... yet...
but when you've been roasted for 50, 60+yrs, all of a sudden what you did way back when comes back at you...
especially if you spend time at altitude...
people die regularly from skin cancer...

visor - helps a bit to keep the direct sun off my face, and every little bit helps.
way better than without.
visibility issues? Iff'n I can't keep my head up enough for decent visibility, then the shoulders are prolly slumped, the elbows are locked, then this turkey is cooked and prolly 'shelled' and blowin off the back of the group anyway...

i've taken, this year, to wearing 'arm coolers' / covers on any rides over 1 hr...
they actually work - arms are cooler and longterm, should help reduce risk of problems

if losin the visor is a self-confidence, 'posing' related concern (which, I suspect, it is for many...) then you better spend more time in front of the mirror, before headin out to cruise the 'vard', make sure it's all present and correct...:lol:

Blackdays 09-24-10 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by cyclezen (Post 11517955)
interesting, this pops up just as there's a thread in the Geezer forum about skin problems/cancer.
when you've been exposed to sun for almost 30yrs, I guess it's not a big issue... yet...
but when you've been roasted for 50, 60+yrs, all of a sudden what you did way back when comes back at you...
especially if you spend time at altitude...
people die regularly from skin cancer...

visor - helps a bit to keep the direct sun off my face, and every little bit helps.
way better than without.
visibility issues? Iff'n I can't keep my head up enough for decent visibility, then the shoulders are prolly slumped, the elbows are locked, then this turkey is cooked and prolly 'shelled' and blowin off the back of the group anyway...

i've taken, this year, to wearing 'arm coolers' / covers on any rides over 1 hr...
they actually work - arms are cooler and longterm, should help reduce risk of problems

if losin the visor is a self-confidence, 'posing' related concern (which, I suspect, it is for many...) then you better spend more time in front of the mirror, before headin out to cruise the 'vard', make sure it's all present and correct...:lol:

Or, you know, you could just wear a cycling cap.

cyclezen 09-24-10 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Blackdays (Post 11517975)
Or, you know, you could just wear a cycling cap.

cap coverage
https://www.peacecoffee.com/order/pr...s/img96586.jpg
helmutt
http://photos.demandstudios.com/231/...3000140_XS.jpg
standing in front of the mirror...
http://www.danielpjohnston.com/graph...ndurain-93.jpg
reality
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2743/...54025120a9.jpg

actually, iff'n I could spend a day riding where this guy is, I'd be happy to be similarly outfitted to do it...

have a bunch of caps, all hot on a sunny day
helmutt, way moe betta...

Kotts 09-24-10 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by scottcpa (Post 11516194)
Hi Everyone

I know this may be a lame question, but I would appreciate some feedback. My current Bell helmet has a sun visor. I found a Giro helmet that fits snug and is on sale at a deep discount. However, it does not come equiped with a sun visor.

For those of you who have used both over the years, do visors really block out sun and glare? Will I notice a difference without the visor? What are the pros and cons of visors?

Any opinions would be grealy welcomed.

Thanks

I have found visors to be a pain in the neck, literally. Down in the drops or even up on the hoods, I have to crane my neck too far back to be able to see clearly ahead. Visorless and sunglesses for me. Besides, sunglasses keep my eyes better protected from bugs, road grit, etc.

BTW: The visors on all the Bell helmets I have seen are removable.

slowandsteady 09-24-10 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by midgetmaestro (Post 11517771)
Ding Ding Ding! We have a correct answer!

Learn something new every day.....

TriEngineer 09-24-10 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by scottcpa (Post 11516194)
Hi Everyone

I know this may be a lame question, but I would appreciate some feedback. My current Bell helmet has a sun visor. I found a Giro helmet that fits snug and is on sale at a deep discount. However, it does not come equiped with a sun visor.

For those of you who have used both over the years, do visors really block out sun and glare? Will I notice a difference without the visor? What are the pros and cons of visors?

Any opinions would be grealy welcomed.

Thanks

helmets with visor are meant for mountain biking, with most road bikes' geometry, you are leaning forward more, having a visor greatly increase the angle you have to bend your head in order to see the road ahead.

jdon 09-24-10 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by midgetmaestro (Post 11517771)
Ding Ding Ding! We have a correct answer!

All of them are correct. Except Columbo's.

In the heat of summer, I will clip a visor on in the rain. It keeps the glasses cleaner/longer. Don't really care how it looks. Otherwise cycling caps work well.

lpolliard 09-24-10 11:38 AM

I have no problems with vision while using a visor, even in the drops. They also seem to help with glare or maybe I just need a pair of darker sunglasses. It seems stock lens are never dark enough for SoCal. Another benefit is to deflect those on coming hoards of gnats. Holding the visor down creates a bubble around your face so you don't have to eat so many :twitchy:

That said my newest helmet, Giro Atmos, does not have a visor and I don't have a problem with that either.

Pinyon 09-24-10 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by midgetmaestro (Post 11517774)
Training rides and Fred in the same paragraph? I don't think so buddy. ;) :P

I guess you have to race for it to be considered a training ride? Is there a distance cut-off?

I don't race, and can only fit 250-300 miles per week into my schedule. Should I call them "exercise" or "be able to keep up with my group-ride buddies" rides?

Meh. I'm just going to keep calling them training rides.

midgetmaestro 09-24-10 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Pinyon (Post 11519291)
I guess you have to race for it to be considered a training ride? Is there a distance cut-off?

I don't race, and can only fit 250-300 miles per week into my schedule. Should I call them "exercise" or "be able to keep up with my group-ride buddies" rides?

Meh. I'm just going to keep calling them training rides.

I was kidding bud. :thumb:

Seamless 09-24-10 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by gazelle5333 (Post 11517571)
The guy at the LBS told me pretty much what's already been said...road = no visor, mtn. = visor. He said the real benefit is when you're biking through the woods, you can use the visor to knock the small branches out of your way. It gives your face a little more protection. Really no need for the visor on the road b/c it's too small/high to really do anything to help with the sun unless you're riding around noon.

Nope. High noon is the time of the least shading effect: assuming you look forward approximately level to the horizon, if the sun is directly overhead, its rays wouldn't be in your eyes. Only when the visor can cast a shadow across your face would it make a difference.

brianappleby 09-24-10 05:49 PM

http://cyclistrules.blogspot.com/201...t-savages.html

ciocc_cat 09-24-10 05:52 PM

The visor on my current Bell helmet partially blocked my view of the road ahead, so I removed it for safety. My next helmet (I'm looking at a Louis Garneau Quartz) has no visor.

BarracksSi 09-24-10 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich (Post 11517544)
the pearl izumi tech caps work fine (at least for me) in 90 degree weather when paired with a halo headband

The heat is half the reason I'm not sure if I like caps under a helmet; the other half is how much higher the helmet is forced to sit on my head. I'd rather have the airflow without the cap, and since my hair is short anyway (I use a 1/2" guard on my trimmers), I can feel it.


Originally Posted by gazelle5333 (Post 11517571)
The guy at the LBS told me pretty much what's already been said...road = no visor, mtn. = visor. He said the real benefit is when you're biking through the woods, you can use the visor to knock the small branches out of your way. It gives your face a little more protection. Really no need for the visor on the road b/c it's too small/high to really do anything to help with the sun unless you're riding around noon.

Funny thing is, over in the MTB forum, I've heard the visor referred to as a "mudguard." Makes sense, and it's basically the same reasoning your LBS guy talked about.

dahut 09-24-10 08:38 PM

Road rider here. No visor.

wants185s 09-24-10 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by Sourpuss Magee (Post 11517699)
I thought this was the purpose of the visor. It had nothing to do with the sun.

+1

DScott 09-24-10 10:13 PM

At speed, visors catch the wind and pull the helmet and your head back in a very annoying and uncomfortable way. Blocking vision in the drops just seals the deal. No visors for me.

DIGNYC 09-24-10 11:08 PM

Road bike = no visor. Just wear shades and toss a cycling cap in your jersey when it looks like rain.

ptle 09-25-10 09:36 AM

No visor.

They're not meant for blocking the sun or headlights. They're meant for mountain biking helmets to keep low trees off your face. I know some visors aren't completely solid and have holes in them... which wouldn't be good for blocking out the sun.

Just use sunglasses. Plus it blocks your vision especially when in the drops.

bostongarden 09-25-10 09:40 AM

Sans visor!

carlspeed 09-25-10 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by mihlbach (Post 11516489)
You should use a visor if it works for you. More importantly, if someone on BF asks you about it, just lie and say you ride visorless. Then you will still be cool.

+1!

fishymamba 09-25-10 10:16 AM

I don't like sunglasses because they make everything really dark. I always use a visor they really help.

BarracksSi 09-25-10 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by fishymamba (Post 11522115)
I don't like sunglasses because they make everything really dark.

I forgot about that -- yeah, the shadows are even darker.

I still don't like direct sunlight in my eyes anyway. During my last optometrist visit, after dilating my pupils and right before searing my retinas... I mean, examining them with a light, the doctor said that people with light-colored eyes like mine are usually more sensitive to bright light. I still want to shield my eyes even with sunglasses on.


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