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Zipp 101 - anyone with experience on them?

Old 09-24-10, 09:25 PM
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Zipp 101 - anyone with experience on them?

They look nice, but very pricey. Very good reviews so far.
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don't ask fauxto nick
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Why would you spend that much money on them?
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I can get them for around $900. Not cheap, but if they're the best thing since sliced bread... Also, I do think they're pricey, that's why I'm asking about them.
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Originally Posted by Unagidon
I can get them for around $900. Not cheap, but if they're the best thing since sliced bread... Also, I do think they're pricey, that's why I'm asking about them.
I just got my carbon Reynolds for $999.
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I have some old one's. I didn't think they were that special, but maybe the new one's are. Doubt they are $900 special...
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lol. old 101s. they're zipps first aluminum clincher...

i've heard nothing but great things. cheapest i've seen em is 1300 so 900 is a steal.
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Yep, old. They made them back in the late 90's early 2000's.
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hmm... they say "worlds first full toroidal rim..."...
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Originally Posted by zstjohn
don't ask fauxto nick
He liked the wheels
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https://www.zipp.com/support/identify/wheel_timeline.php

Look down the page to 1999. That's the version I have.
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Originally Posted by umd
He liked the wheels
then he should ask fauxto nick
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New Zipp 101: https://university.tri-sports.com/201...-101-wheelset/

More reviews:
https://video.bicycling.com/video/Zipp-101-Wheels-Review

Old Zipp 101: https://www.zipp.com/support/identify/wheel_timeline.php
Introduced in 1999, and discontinued in 2000. Can't be that good....

New Zipp not equal to old Zipp. So...anyone with experience with the wheels? Not interested in carbons.
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Originally Posted by knobster
https://www.zipp.com/support/identify/wheel_timeline.php

Look down the page to 1999. That's the version I have.
color me wrong. weird i swear i all the reviews said it was the first.
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Originally Posted by zstjohn
color me wrong. weird i swear i all the reviews said it was the first.
It's the first full aluminum "toroidal". You didn't hear/read wrong
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Originally Posted by Unagidon
Old Zipp 101: https://www.zipp.com/support/identify/wheel_timeline.php
Introduced in 1999, and discontinued in 2000. Can't be that good....
I'm not sure I'd say that. I still have a set and they work fine. True and light and 11 years old. Can't be that bad.....
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Originally Posted by knobster
I'm not sure I'd say that. I still have a set and they work fine. True and light and 11 years old. Can't be that bad.....
True. Might have been too expensive to produce (due to good quality) but no one bought due to high price. So you're correct - my original assumption may be faulty. Now...anyone have experience with the new ones?
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Originally Posted by Unagidon
Seems like that review completely missed the point. Well what should I expect from Bicycling Mag anyway.
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Interesting.... crap branding on Zipps part. Zipp 101.b more like it....or is 101.2 too open ended?
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I shopped them in early Spring (when they were hard to find). The chief competition is the HED Ardennes -- which is a VERY similar design. The HED is around 200g lighter and, at street prices, less expensive.

But then, there is all those years of Zipp/HED marketing to consider . . . they've always told us that aero didn't really matter unless you had deeper rims.
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Originally Posted by ijen0311
I just got my carbon Reynolds for $999.
Where?
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Where?
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Originally Posted by FlashBazbo
I shopped them in early Spring (when they were hard to find). The chief competition is the HED Ardennes -- which is a VERY similar design. The HED is around 200g lighter and, at street prices, less expensive.

But then, there is all those years of Zipp/HED marketing to consider . . . they've always told us that aero didn't really matter unless you had deeper rims.
I have the new 101's. $900 new from a Zipp authorized dealer, 88/108 hubset like the carbon wheels, and they are absolutely great. I can't speak specifically to the HED Ardennes, but I've owned HED wheels in the past, and still have/use some of their current product. I was never impressed with the wheels (HED Alps), and in every instance that I've had to contact/interact with the people at HED, I've personally found their customer service to be pretty poor. I was interested in their C2 series, and the customer service alone was enough to scare me off. I've had the exact opposite with Zipp, dealing with them in both purchase and crash replacement scenarios, and they have been quick and extremely professional.

With respect specifically to the current Zipp 101's, the difference in the ride characteristics are noticeable immediately, which I'm attributing to the wide rim track. So, take into account that you will possibly have to reset you brake calipers. Also, since the rims are toroidal, you will have to set the camber of the brake shoe and re-toe your brakes. No big deal, but could be an issue if you are racing and have to pull a wheel from the wheel pit...unless your pit wheels are the same.

So far great wheels. I bought them primarily for training, but will probably race them as well. I won't do it anytime soon, but it might be fun to compare them against 404s and ksyriums or DA wheels for fun.

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You may also want to compare them against Mavic's Cosmic Carbone SLRs. The Mavics weigh almost exactly the same as the Zipp 101s (in the real world) but have real aero benefits -- 52mm rims.

But then, the Mavics don't have the Zipp name on them.
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