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Old 09-27-10, 06:03 PM
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Need help with deciding between these bikes...

2010 $1600 https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/...ct/7316/44045/

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2011 $1850 https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/...ce/3886/36663/

I have test ridden both bikes and i like the feel of them both. so it comes down to components. I am slightly leaning on the full carbon defy but the price on the allaince is tempting.

what do you guys suggest? Thanks
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Old 09-27-10, 06:05 PM
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Go with your lean.
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OK, it's been two years since I bought a Giant road bike, but last I checked, those were two different geometries. YOU need to decide which geometry you want. The DEFY is a more relaxed geometry for someone who wants a more comfortable ride. The TCR is a more aggresive geometry for someone who is, well, more aggresive. If you're into racing, go for the TCR. If you like more laid back group rides go for the DEFY. The components are not as important as deciding on the geometry you want.
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Originally Posted by roccobike View Post
OK, it's been two years since I bought a Giant road bike, but last I checked, those were two different geometries. YOU need to decide which geometry you want. The DEFY is a more relaxed geometry for someone who wants a more comfortable ride. The TCR is a more aggresive geometry for someone who is, well, more aggresive. If you're into racing, go for the TCR. If you like more laid back group rides. The components are not as important as deciding on the geometry you want.
Big +1, geometries are very different.
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I was at my lbs and tested both out. As a newbie, what was said above were accurate with what i felt riding both. But honestly im still early in the game to tell if im going racing later down the road or just a cruiser. I was told i could just lower the bar holding the handle bars if i ever wanted to race. I probably will go the defy route but i was just curious if the tcr's price/performance ratio was worth another look.
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If both feel great, then go with the one that you think looks better. Or go with whichever bike you think shifts gears better.... If it was me, and all other things were considered equally, I'd go with the Defy simply because I'm not such a big fan of SRAM's double-tap shifting.
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The first link is a link to the 2011 model. Lots of good talk floating around about the new 105 group. Personally, I like the first one more.
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If both feel great, then go with the one that you think looks better. Or go with whichever bike you think shifts gears better.... If it was me, and all other things were considered equally, I'd go with the Defy simply because I'm not such a big fan of SRAM's double-tap shifting.
The 105 definitely felt responsive compared to the tiagras the i previously owned. I thought the 105 was a bit better and solid than the sram rival but thats just me. So far im still leaning on the defy. I like the seatpost and frame the way it looks.
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Originally Posted by westsid3r View Post
The 105 definitely felt responsive compared to the tiagras the i previously owned. I thought the 105 was a bit better and solid than the sram rival but thats just me. So far im still leaning on the defy. I like the seatpost and frame the way it looks.
I think you're in a win win situation.
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What mainly turned me off was the price difference. I guess the full carbon, 105 and look makes it all worth it.
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Pitty it doesn't come with the 105 crank
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Originally Posted by BLR_0719 View Post
Pitty it doesn't come with the 105 crank
I dont know much about cranksets but should i be worried? The brakes are fine for me.
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Originally Posted by westsid3r View Post
I was at my lbs and tested both out. As a newbie, what was said above were accurate with what i felt riding both. But honestly im still early in the game to tell if im going racing later down the road or just a cruiser. I was told i could just lower the bar holding the handle bars if i ever wanted to race. I probably will go the defy route but i was just curious if the tcr's price/performance ratio was worth another look.
There's a lot more than lowering the bar. Go back and do a test ride of each now that you know the differences.
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Go with the Giant Defy, I have the Giant OCR C3 CF...I love this bike.
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Originally Posted by westsid3r View Post
What mainly turned me off was the price difference. I guess the full carbon, 105 and look makes it all worth it.
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Carbon & Rival.

If giant doesnt offer that config, id go elsewhere.
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Personally Id go with the TCR. Better components and build. If your comfortable on both bikes Id go with the more aggressive one, it will handle better as well.
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The tcr definitely has some good components but my concern with it is the alu/carbon frame. how is it compared to a full carbon?

Thinking back when I had my trek 1.5, I was more into racing. The tcr advanced 2 2010 (https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/...ed/7309/44385/) seems like a good stretch. I dont want to keep upgrading if I settled with a lesser equipped bike.
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