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How many miles should you get from bike tires?

Old 09-29-10, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by daoswald View Post
In 7000 miles I would expect to also need a new chain, new shoes, new bar tape, new brake pads.... and some of those things several times.
What? Who replaces their shoes based on mileage?
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Old 09-29-10, 12:38 AM
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Seems like most road tyres trade longevity for high performance so you will get less mileage from these than you will on a tyre that is designed for higher mileage use.

7000 miles is great mileage and something I would expect from something like a Schwalbe Marathon which is a high mileage tyre that can get as much as 15,000 km / 9000 miles if you are not touring on them and then the mileage seems to drop down to 10,000 km / 6000 miles.

The Schwalbe Hurricanes (26 by 2.0) I run on my mtb for urban / trail / winter have 10,000 km on them and are still hard to tell from new Hurricanes and have yet to get a flat... have been running these for 5 years on a number of bikes and in all kinds of conditions.

A good part of this stems from my being a lightweight... heavier riders and those who tour will wear their tyres out faster.
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If I can get 5000 km from my tires, they are doing well.
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had a pair of pro iii's crap out from nicks n cuts after 500 miles. very lame.
my set of bontragers is at 1500 and running.
i inspect the sidewalls after every few rides just in case. my guess is anything over 2k is solid.
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Old 09-29-10, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Urthwhyte View Post
What? Who replaces their shoes based on mileage?
not me. i won't replace mine until the carbon sole cracks. or i get an irreparable tear. luckily the buckle is replaceable. i use these:

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I got 900 miles on my stock rear Continental UltraSport, 700 x 23c. The rear tire was pretty squared off. So my front went to my back and I got a Gator Continental for the front.

I check the pressure before each ride. 120lbs on the rear 110lbs on the front.
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Old 09-29-10, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by daoswald View Post
Something's not right in this post. 7000 miles and you're new to biking? Are we talking maybe about 700 miles? If I chewed through a tire in 700 miles, sure, I'd be mad. But if I got 7000 miles out of the tire I would (A) not be new to biking anymore, and (B) be amazed that the tire lasted that long.

In 7000 miles I would expect to also need a new chain, new shoes, new bar tape, new brake pads.... and some of those things several times.
If your own your first chain toss in a new cassette and possibly chainrings.
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Haha, where the hell is the OP?
Has he gone on another 8000mile trip?
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Gotta love the Forum Hit N Run. I vote troll ban.
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Gotta love the Forum Hit N Run. I vote troll ban.
you remember the tire post some years ago? It's gotta still be here...
the EPIC POST OF TIRE AWESOMENESS!
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Originally Posted by LowCel View Post
Once I start getting more flats than usual I know it's time to change them.
+1

I have a number of tires that I have swapped out that still have life in them because they start getting flats more often. I'm sure there is plenty of life in these tires it's just not worth it for the roads I travel on and the places I travel through.

I should take inventory of these tires and offer them to others, I'm sure those that ride on relatively debris free roads could make good use of them.
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Originally Posted by Scorer75 View Post
+1

I have a number of tires that I have swapped out that still have life in them because they start getting flats more often. I'm sure there is plenty of life in these tires it's just not worth it for the roads I travel on and the places I travel through.

I should take inventory of these tires and offer them to others, I'm sure those that ride on relatively debris free roads could make good use of them.
Or hell, give them to a local charity that fixes up old bikes for kids (and while you're at it, make a cash donation so you're not just offloading trash)
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Old 09-29-10, 10:22 AM
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Here are a few tires I've used till they wore out:
Rear:
IRC Tandem 700x30 - 11,000 miles with about 8 flats
Continental Ultra Gatorskin 700x28 - 10,000 miles with about 7 flats
Continental Ultra Gatorskin 700x28 - 8,000 miles with about 5 flats
Continental GP4000 700x23 - 5,000 miles
Continental Force 700x23 - 3,000 miles
Innova Tundra Wolf (studded) 700x35 - 800 miles with no flats (studs
wore out)
Nashbar Folding Road Tire 700x26 - 200 miles with 3 flats (plenty of
life left, but now it's only allowed on the trainer)
Front:
Continental Ultra Gatorskin 700x25 - 10,000 miles with no flats
Continental Grand Prix 700x25 - 8,000 miles with about 1 flat
Continental GP4000 700x23 - 6,000 miles with about 1 flat
Continental Attack 700x22 - 4,000 miles
Innova Tundra Wolf (studded) 700x35 - 800 miles with no flats (studs
wore out)
I've noticed that tires tend the wear better and last longer if they're inflated reasonably (like the Berto tire chart recommends) than if they're inflated to the maximum printed on the sidewall. I'm now using Panaracer Pasela and Pasela TG tires on a few bikes, but have not worn any out yet to add to the list. I continue to use Continental Grand Prix and Gatorskin tires, as well.

Your mileage may vary.
Cheers,
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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed View Post
Here are a few tires I've used till they wore out:
Rear:
IRC Tandem 700x30 - 11,000 miles with about 8 flats
Continental Ultra Gatorskin 700x28 - 10,000 miles with about 7 flats
Continental Ultra Gatorskin 700x28 - 8,000 miles with about 5 flats
Continental GP4000 700x23 - 5,000 miles
Continental Force 700x23 - 3,000 miles
Innova Tundra Wolf (studded) 700x35 - 800 miles with no flats (studs
wore out)
Nashbar Folding Road Tire 700x26 - 200 miles with 3 flats (plenty of
life left, but now it's only allowed on the trainer)
Front:
Continental Ultra Gatorskin 700x25 - 10,000 miles with no flats
Continental Grand Prix 700x25 - 8,000 miles with about 1 flat
Continental GP4000 700x23 - 6,000 miles with about 1 flat
Continental Attack 700x22 - 4,000 miles
Innova Tundra Wolf (studded) 700x35 - 800 miles with no flats (studs
wore out)
I've noticed that tires tend the wear better and last longer if they're inflated reasonably (like the Berto tire chart recommends) than if they're inflated to the maximum printed on the sidewall. I'm now using Panaracer Pasela and Pasela TG tires on a few bikes, but have not worn any out yet to add to the list. I continue to use Continental Grand Prix and Gatorskin tires, as well.

Your mileage may vary.
Cheers,
David

Out of curiosity, what do you weigh, what pressure do you inflate your tires to, and how would you describe the conditions of the roads you ride?
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Originally Posted by Scorer75 View Post
Out of curiosity, what do you weigh, what pressure do you inflate your tires to, and how would you describe the conditions of the roads you ride?
Bike plus rider plus gear is usually 200 +/- 10lbs.
Front tire inflation:
22mm 100psi
23mm 90psi
25mm 80psi
28mm 65psi

Rear tire inflation:
23mm 115psi
25mm 100psi
28mm 85psi
35mm 60psi

Most of my rides are on asphalt roads that could benefit from some maintenance. Potholes, cracks, and bad sealing jobs are common. I see glass every day, but don't live near any goathead thorns. Most of my punctures are from slivers of steel, rather than from glass.
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Old 09-29-10, 04:16 PM
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I hope to get 7000 miles out of the Metzlers on my FJR.

If I get 4000 out of bicycle tires, I'm a happy camper.
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You all fell for an obvious troll post.
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I churn out copious gobs of bottom bracket shattering torque and guadage -- I'm lucky to get 100 miles out of my rear tire.
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I ride a fixie with one skid patch. My tire lasts two 7/11 visits and maybe a beer run to get some PBR.
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I got 1700 out of my Vittoria Diamante Pro Tires - Some bad squaring. I have GP 4000s and they have 1800 and there is no squaring.
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Anything made of rubber on a bike is a disposable component. Metal parts last longer, but ultimately wear out. You just have to learn when the disposal/replacement point comes. And learn to do your own work, most of you, you'll like doing this.
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Originally Posted by LowCel View Post
If you have ridden in the city 7000 miles you are no longer new to riding.
Well, I said "somewhat" new. I ride ten miles each way, for 100 miles per week, and I've been doing it for two years, though I don't ride every day. I've been driving for 30 years but riding for two, so I think I'm "somewhat" new.

My computer puts me at a bit over 7000 miles, but not all that was on this tire. I replaced my knobby (and vibrating) mountain bike tires after about a month with a pair of smooth Kenda Kross ("Slick XC" model, $14), but after about three months (and five or six flats) I replaced the rear Kenda with (don't laugh) a Bell Kevlar that I bought at Walmart. It was a deep-tread city model. I think it cost $12 or so, and it lasted about 7000 miles. I had one or two flats with this tire.

I replaced the Bell with a nice but expensive ($40) Continental tire from a good local shop (The Bike Gallery). After reading the comments here, though, I think I should have gone back to Walmart. It seems that expensive tires last about the same at best (but usually worse) as cheap tires.

I'm still running the same Kenda on the front, and it shows no significant sign of wear (and it gives a great smooth ride). I've never had a flat on the front tire. I use (and swear by) heavy-duty Green Slime tubes.

These are big 26x1.95 tires, FWIW. I'm sure if I had little skinny tires then I would not get nearly as many miles. We'll see if the expensive Continental gives me as many miles as my cheap Bell.

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Originally Posted by davidfilmer View Post
Well, I said "somewhat" new. I ride ten miles each way, for 100 miles per week, and I've been doing it for two years, though I don't ride every day. I've been driving for 30 years but riding for two, so I think I'm "somewhat" new.

My computer puts me at a bit over 7000 miles, but not all that was on this tire. I replaced my knobby (and vibrating) mountain bike tires after about a month with a pair of smooth Kenda Kross ("Slick XC" model, $14), but after about three months (and five or six flats) I replaced the rear Kenda with (don't laugh) a Bell Kevlar that I bought at Walmart. It was a deep-tread city model. I think it cost $12 or so, and it lasted about 7000 miles. I had one or two flats with this tire.

I replaced the Bell with a nice but expensive ($40) Continental tire from a good local shop (The Bike Gallery). After reading the comments here, though, I think I should have gone back to Walmart. It seems that expensive tires last about the same at best (but usually worse) as cheap tires.

I'm still running the same Kenda on the front, and it shows no significant sign of wear (and it gives a great smooth ride). I've never had a flat on the front tire. I use (and swear by) heavy-duty Green Slime tubes.

These are big 26x1.95 tires, FWIW. I'm sure if I had little skinny tires then I would not get nearly as many miles. We'll see if the expensive Continental gives me as many miles as my cheap Bell.
Just as with car tires, there is more to consider than just longevity. Rolling resistance, traction on wet and dry pavement, and resistance to flats is also important. An increase in the $ amount spent on tires usually means an improvement in one or more of these factors.

What is most important to you?
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Originally Posted by davidfilmer View Post
I ride ten miles each way, for 100 miles per week...

...mountain bike tires after about a month with a pair of smooth Kenda Kross ("Slick XC" model, $14), but after about three months (and five or six flats) I replaced the rear Kenda with (don't laugh) a Bell Kevlar that I bought at Walmart. It was a deep-tread city model. I think it cost $12 or so, and it lasted about 7000 miles. I had one or two flats with this tire.

...

These are big 26x1.95 tires, FWIW.
Just wanted to highlight the important bits so all the roadies can start to breathe again. Given that you're commuting on a mountain bike with 26" wheels and road slicks, I think you'll get the best answers in the commuting forum, here:

https://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php?20-Commuting

There's no way to make a good comparison to skinny wheels and tires most roadies use. And I'd guess that there's a little less apoplexy over there...
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