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Bum hurts on long rides. Upgrade saddle or bike shorts?

Old 10-03-10, 01:19 PM
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Bum hurts on long rides. Upgrade saddle or bike shorts?

I have the original saddle that came with my Felt and my bike shorts were $30 ones from Sports Authority. Which is the better item to upgrade for a more comfortable ride.
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Old 10-03-10, 01:23 PM
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I would go with and upgrade on the saddle first. I went from the stock saddle that came with my bike to an Arione and it made a huge difference in ride comfort. I upgraded my shorts after to Performance bibs, which made the ride even more comfortable on the new saddle.
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Old 10-03-10, 01:28 PM
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Upgrade butt -- you need more saddle time. I'd do shorts next and seat last.
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Old 10-03-10, 03:04 PM
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Ride more, ride longer, that is what it takes.
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I tossed my Felt saddle, it is not called a facade for nothing, or maybe that's on their mtbs, anyway they suck.
I got a Nashbar Fizik Arione knockoff and dig it, big money for a saddle is no guarantee of comfort, neither is cheap a promise of pain.
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Old 10-03-10, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
Upgrade butt -- you need more saddle time. I'd do shorts next and seat last.
This. In the same order. Maybe get some good shorts right away, though.
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Old 10-03-10, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by frpax View Post
This. In the same order. Maybe get some good shorts right away, though.
If he gets some good shorts right away . . . how is that "in the same order"?

Just curious.
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Maybe also check your fit to the bike. I experienced some soreness / numbness with my stock saddle (typical 1-1/2 - 2 hour ride time) and then made a small tweak to my stem angle which changed my whole posture and I notice I am able to rest my sits bones where they belong. Almost 2 hours in the saddle today and no soreness. ( a little chafing from new shorts....)
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Try two pairs of padded shorts - it helped me.

Alot has to do with how much you weigh also. Pressure on the bones may be the issue and nothing will make it better except ride time and getting lighter.
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Old 10-03-10, 04:14 PM
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saddle. that solved all my problems. My saddle was too skinny before and my sitbones were not even on the saddle.
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Old 10-03-10, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FlashBazbo View Post
If he gets some good shorts right away . . . how is that "in the same order"?

Just curious.
An option. More emphasis on saddle time being the more important. Notice I said "maybe".
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U cant compare a 30 bucks sports authority shorts with a capo, castelli or santini shorts. Well they cost like 150 bucks but the difference is way too big. I would change the shorts 1st. What u have is for going to the gym not for riding.
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Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
Upgrade butt -- you need more saddle time. I'd do shorts next and seat last.
+1 One of my friends (I refer to him as mean ole Bob) kept asking me as I went thru 5 different saddles "How many miles do you have?" and I would tell him and he would tell me to keep pedaling, it's not the saddle it's your butt. After somewhere between 1500 and 2000 miles my butt quit hurting. I do feel better with better shorts though.
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Old 10-03-10, 05:15 PM
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I'd agree that the saddle will make a bigger difference, the only drag is how expensive saddles are! You might want to figure out what about your saddle hurts so bad. Do you have pressure in certain areas? Does it feel too hard? Not supportive enough? Once you figure that out then you can try and zero in on which saddles will give you what you're needing.

For instance, the original saddle on my first bike caused uncomfortable pressure on my man parts so I bought a Specialized toupe with a cutout. The cutout seemed to do the trick. Eventually I realized the toupe wasn't quite padded enough though so now I've got a Fizik Antares Versus.
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Old 10-03-10, 05:19 PM
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But I do agree with Banerjek and RedC- if you haven't ridden enough on the saddle (or in general) you might be in pain just because of that. You might want to give it time before looking or other options.
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Old 10-03-10, 05:20 PM
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Saddle, shorts, and then ride more...... Hit a decent LBS, and help keep your fellow Americans employed.
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Bib Shorts and a cream like DZ Nuts.
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The saddle CAN make a huge difference. Keeping it within a brand -- the Brooks Swallow/Swift is torture on my 6,000-miles-per-year backside. The Brooks Team Pro (just 5 mm wider) defines comfort for me.

Another issue is distance. Fizik's Arione is great for me for distances of 50 miles and less. Beyond that, and I've ridden the Arione many times, but my backside didn't enjoy the last miles very much.

First, make sure your saddle fits you (not your riding buddies or a participant on the BF). Once you've done that, I'm not sure the shorts matter all that much, so long as they are quality shorts and don't have a misplaced seam.
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I remember when bikes came with pedals... then they realized nobody liked the stock pedals and started shipping them without pedals. Soon enough, bikes won't come with a seat either, I bet.
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Bib Shorts and a cream like DZ Nuts.
this.. then if your still hurting worry about the saddle
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Originally Posted by northsjfixed View Post
I have the original saddle that came with my Felt and my bike shorts were $30 ones from Sports Authority. Which is the better item to upgrade for a more comfortable ride.
Those shorts are likely absolute garbage? Is the chamois fuzzy? You really need to compare it to some decent shorts, I wouldn't even call those entry level.

Upgrade shorts ASAP. Then get lots of saddle time, need lots of miles for your butt to adjust and be used to sitting on saddle.

Upgrade saddle waaay later down the road, 1,000's of miles, if still having issues or numbness.

At the bottom end, at least get some Pearl Izumi Attacks, mid-range, easy to fine, reasonably priced. Jumping straight into bib shorts though is highly recommended, you'll never want to go back, everything stays in place so much better.
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Originally Posted by dploy View Post
Try two pairs of padded shorts - it helped me.

Alot has to do with how much you weigh also. Pressure on the bones may be the issue and nothing will make it better except ride time and getting lighter.
Two pairs at the same time? You could probably use a diaper to achieve the same effect for less money.
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Define long rides. About how long into the ride does it start hurting? You have to know and evaluate the type of pain you are experiencing. If it is pain coming from pressure on the different areas of your bum, then your first step is to check your saddle. Take a look at the angles, positioning, size and material of your saddle. If it is more like a chaffing and irritated skin, then you may want to re-evaluate your shorts.
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
Define long rides. About how long into the ride does it start hurting? You have to know and evaluate the type of pain you are experiencing. If it is pain coming from pressure on the different areas of your bum, then your first step is to check your saddle. Take a look at the angles, positioning, size and material of your saddle. If it is more like a chaffing and irritated skin, then you may want to re-evaluate your shorts.
+1
All the other advice is valid to specific circumstances, but whether it's applicable to the OP is a crap shoot until he gives more information.
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In the order of priority:
*have a professional bike person check your fit
*depending on your sitting position and anatomy will dictate your saddle choices
*your butt is like leather boots; it needs time to get "broken-in"
*get quality padded shorts (bib-shorts are my preference for long distance comfort). Caution stay away from "gel" padded shorts.
* trial & error! I went through 8 saddles , thank god for e-bay!
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