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BarracksSi 11-01-10 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by urbanknight (Post 11716037)
One could have mentioned the fact that most pirated music is not a lost sale in the first place: Although this kind of survey is probably not very accurate, the vast majority of people said that if they didn't pirate it, they still wouldn't have bought it anyway.

After downloading the full version of Red Cliff, I couldn't wait until I could get it on Blu-Ray. Man, it's cool to see.

bhop 11-01-10 07:05 PM

I bought the Ultegras, but I only bought them because they were on sale for less than the price of 105s, or else I would've just bought the cheaper ones... which I guess is what I did... *shrug

himespau 11-01-10 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by urbanknight (Post 11715824)
You failed at reading comprehension.

What? I thought you said you were going to take a car no one wanted?

urbanknight 11-01-10 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by wens (Post 11716143)
And that one can go to the library, borrow a cd, and copy it. And that you could do this with tapes before digital media.

Well, that would still be illegal since you're not supposed to make copies of borrowed media.



Originally Posted by wens (Post 11716143)
I'm actually not in favor of pirating music, but I am pretty pissed off at the lobbying the RIAA and whatever the video equivalent did about personal back up copies in the DMCA. And the judicial system. A judge ruled with a straight face that it's legal for copy protection to be put on bluetooth because the ability to make a VHS covers the personal backup portion of the law. That's absurd.

That sucks. Did the judge ever consider that some people might not own a VCR?

urbanknight 11-01-10 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by himespau (Post 11716733)
What? I thought you said you were going to take a car no one wanted?

Ah, I see what you did.

Tom Pedale 11-01-10 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by gunner65 (Post 11700776)
Actually in my line of work spending countless hours planning projects and quotes sometimes results in a client taking the project to a competitor due to pricing. I think my local shops make plenty of money marking up parts and pieces that we have to have by 200-300%. If you want to spend double the money and be loyal go ahead and knock yourself out it is your money but dont preach that crap to the masses no one is listening in this economy.

This idea that an LBS marks up prices 200-300% is totally wrong. You obviously know nothing about retail businesses.

wens 11-01-10 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by urbanknight (Post 11716810)
Well, that would still be illegal since you're not supposed to make copies of borrowed media.



That sucks. Did the judge ever consider that some people might not own a VCR?

True, but no one made a fuss about it then. I wonder how much illegal sharing actually increased.


It was a strict interpretation of the law as I recall. Since you could make a backup it fulfilled the personal use provision of the law. I don't know if it went anywhere, but the DMCA is completely messed up in a lot of ways. Between their lobbying for laws bordering on absurdity, the ridiculous lawsuits, and their near obsolescence while still taking money from artists I don't feel a whole lot of pity for the RIAA regarding file sharing.

gladiator13 11-02-10 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by bhop (Post 11716724)
I bought the Ultegras, but I only bought them because they were on sale for less than the price of 105s, or else I would've just bought the cheaper ones... which I guess is what I did... *shrug

Thanks for sneaking in with the good tip. I'm going to price watch on both sets until the day I buy and go with the better deal but since I'm buying shoes from the same site if the difference is negligible I'll go with the same website to save on shipping and handling. Thanks for the input though! :)


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