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Roadies are Neurotic!

Old 10-05-04, 11:35 AM
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Roadies are Neurotic!

Ok since I've started to follow this forum I've noticed waaaay too many posts regarding what other people think. Should I wear a team jersey? Should I buy a high end bike? Blah blah blah. Do you people really have such a low level of self esteem? If some one gives you s#$t for wearing or riding what ever it is you wear or ride that's their problem not yours. Get over it and live your life the way you want not the way others dictate.
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ya know what I don't understand? Why do women like a guy with a sense of humor, but get all up in ya grill when you laugh at 'em?
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Originally Posted by 2Rodies
Ok since I've started to follow this forum I've noticed waaaay too many posts regarding what other people think. Should I wear a team jersey? Should I buy a high end bike? Blah blah blah. Do you people really have such a low level of self esteem? If some one gives you s#$t for wearing or riding what ever it is you wear or ride that's their problem not yours. Get over it and live your life the way you want not the way others dictate.
Touché.
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Damn right we care about what others think. If you don't have a Colnago, with a full Record Gruppo attached to your BMW, you ain't shyt. It's not about self-esteem. Got plenty of that (we're road cyclists). It's about making sure everybody knows their place. We don't wave to regular bicycle riders, because they are inferior. If we see the the bright colors of a nice Italian bicycle coming our way, then we may deign a head nod their way, but only in the coolest of indifferent way. Team jersey's??? Don't know about that. Can't afford any after the BMW and Colnago.
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Yep! And their the first ones to whine when someone honks at em
or flips em off! I find it extremely humorus to read these posts where
their trying to chase down cars....kinda like a dog chasing a car, whatta
ya gonna do when ya catch it!?!?
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Old 10-05-04, 11:57 AM
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Well. I can tell you from experience, a dog will bite and attack you until you slap it in the face with a full water bottle a couple times. I don't know what a roadie would do if they caught the car, but I do know most drivers don't carry water bottles either.
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Most drivers will ignore an enraged roadie, because cleaning roadie out of the treads is a disgusting job.
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2Roadies - You are 100% correct. I was worried what others might think at first but on about my 4th ride I flatted and was along the road fixing it when a guy who had passed me 2X on a climb (he flew by me got to the top decended and passed me again near the top) and riding a C'dale R1000 say nice bike about my $700 Marin Argenta. Since then I could care less what others think, I'm just worried about myself.

Now to do something about this damn ft. der. rubbing when I am climbing out of the saddle and creeky handle bar.
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It doesn't matter what you wear or the bike you have.....only how well you ride your bike. Luckily , I don't suffer from this inferiority complex that some people have in this forum have.

If you train hard and increase your physical abilities you'll put more self esteem in yourself and less in your equipment. Yeah sure the guy your riding with has a bike worth thousands more than yours but if you beat him everytime who is going to feel better about themselves?

I don't care how my bike looks, but I do care what I look like. I think some of you need to lift weights.....because all your worrying about your equipment is stupid and born out of low esteem and self-consciousness.
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I have noticed ever since becoming involved in cycling, that it attracts a certain 'element' of US society. I am going to venture a wild guess that this phenomenon is more-or-less confined to the US. So what is this ‘element’?

This is my totally unscientific observation. Cycling in the US is basically a bush-league sport. Any kid who is a respectable athlete in high school is NOT going into cycling. The big four – baseball, basketball, soccer and football have de-facto minor league teams all the way down to elementary school age kids and hence, lock up the talent early. Therefore, cycling is left with the crumbs of the athletic-talent pie. Guys like Lance Armstrong and Greg LeMond are just accidental happenstances.

Cycling also is a melding of athlete and machine unlike any other sport. Therefore, the geek factor comes into play. So I have developed the following profile of the quintessential US cyclist:

1. To small, weak, slow or uncoordinated to make the cut on a high school sports team other than maybe bad mitten.
2. Carries a huge chip on shoulder due to #1 above.
3. Attempts to regain lost status due to #1 above by deriding other lesser cyclists.
4. If number #1 above does not apply then cyclist may have been a bench warmer and is looking for a way to be the ‘alpha’ in another sport.
5. Computer IT people, programmers, hackers and otherwise technical people who like to tinker with machines. Lots of cyclist obsess endlessly about their bike and forget that they actually have to pedal it.
6. Has an advanced degree in astrophysics or some other highly specialized field of study.

In closing, these are some of the pet names of the regular riders in my area… they say it all!

1. The Unabomber
2. Brain stem
3. Q tip
4. The Master
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Old 10-05-04, 01:16 PM
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Galen, you hit the nail on the head!

I am not even the greatest athlete....a mediocre power lifter and football player in college. Yet compared to other cyclists I am inhumanly fast!!!!!!!
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OK, I'll take the bait! I think any activity with a small, enthusiast following tends to cluster together. And a web forum offers a kind of a watering hole as it were to discuss all kinds of things relating to this activity. If you are into, say NFL, its pretty easy to strike up a conversation at work, in the hallway with most anybody and shoot the breeze. But a focussed, fringe activity such as biking...I know of just 2 guys in my office who know what i am talking about. SO, it stands to reason that everyone asks all kinds of personal "how-to" questions etc here. Definitely not neurotic, IMHO.

Besides, if all that was talked about here was about gearing ratios and crank-arm lengths, this forum would get pretty old pretty fast, no?
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Damn, thought I was out of the woods til #6. I don't think it's my Ph.D. in nuclear physics that makes me like to ride, though. I guess, being female, there's most likely a whole different set of rules. Tell me, why do girls ride?

Here's why I don't care what poncey matchy-matchy bikers think of me: I got started biking when my dad wanted to go on Ragbrai. About halfway through the week, out there on our cheap mountain bikes, no visors on our helmets, Dad finds us some disposable paper painter's caps to wear under out helmets to provide us with some small bit of sun relief. As we're putting our "gear" on after a lunch stop, dad comments "I bet we're the biggest dorks out here." A grizzled old veteran walking by in bike shoes, mirror attached to helmet looks at us and says "Ain't no dorks on Ragbrai."

And that's it. If you're out there, you're cool.
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Originally Posted by 2Rodies
Ok since I've started to follow this forum I've noticed waaaay too many posts regarding what other people think. Should I wear a team jersey? Should I buy a high end bike? Blah blah blah. Do you people really have such a low level of self esteem? If some one gives you s#$t for wearing or riding what ever it is you wear or ride that's their problem not yours. Get over it and live your life the way you want not the way others dictate.
So if one freely chooses to live their life the way they want and that happens to be by being swayed by what others think then what level of self-esteem do they have ;-)
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Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
Yet compared to other cyclists I am inhumanly fast!!!!!!!
Nothing against you, but this must be an acquired talent, right? No, not the ability to be inhumanly fast...
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i dont spend alot of time over here, but when i read the first post...i was thinking whoa this is gonna get good! but it just seems that every one is agreeing...

although, galen, it seemed like when i was (halfast/halfassed) training for racing there was an element of h.s. and collegiate cross country runners that would step in and dominate. we need to look to that section for cross training and growth...in my opinion
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Speak for yourselves, dorks, I make an effort to dress appropriately wherever I am.

What's wrong with people today?! Not caring about their appearance in public spaces, wearing jeans to work, chewing gum on the subway, dressing uncool while on a bicycle etc....
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Originally Posted by galen_52657
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Cycling also is a melding of athlete and machine unlike any other sport. Therefore, the geek factor comes into play. So I have developed the following profile of the quintessential US cyclist:

1. To small, weak, slow or uncoordinated to make the cut on a high school sports team other than maybe bad mitten.
2. Carries a huge chip on shoulder due to #1 above.
3. Attempts to regain lost status due to #1 above by deriding other lesser cyclists.
4. If number #1 above does not apply then cyclist may have been a bench warmer and is looking for a way to be the ‘alpha’ in another sport.
5. Computer IT people, programmers, hackers and otherwise technical people who like to tinker with machines. Lots of cyclist obsess endlessly about their bike and forget that they actually have to pedal it.
6. Has an advanced degree in astrophysics or some other highly specialized field of study.
...

This is true. In Italy, cycling is considered a valid "jock" sport.

I think this is why typical Italian cycling clothes (as worn by italians) are as ridiculous/unfashionable as basketball clothes in the USA, for example.
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Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
It doesn't matter what you wear or the bike you have.....only how well you ride your bike. Luckily , I don't suffer from this inferiority complex that some people have in this forum have.
No.. what you suffer from requires a whole team of medical and psychological professionals.
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Galen, you forgot:

7. Triathletes who have bad knees or can't swim
8. Recovering alchoholics/addicts who figure they'll save money on this new addiction (Hah!)
9. Lycra fetishists
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Galen, you forgot:
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8. Recovering alchoholics/addicts who figure they'll save money on this new addiction (Hah!)

8a. Alcoholics who have had their drivers license revoked.

You know, the DUI-peloton. Identifiable by grossly poor fit, rotated handlebars and non-operable shifting mechanism.
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Yeah ... but most roadies are driving new BMW and Porsche (not me) (did I mention Colnago), live in huge house (not me), dine in fine restaurant because they can now afford it in the real world where the ability to earn money (not athleticism) is king. They may still be clumsy(that's me), but they are sporting around their young trophy wife (not me).

There's nothing more pathetic than a jealous former mediocre athlete. Most former athlete although looked great in their youth are inevitable fat (under utilized overdeveloped muscles turn to fat) and bald (over-stressed aging). Also, those unnecessary pounding taken in school sports will hound you the rest on your life with aches and pains. Let us get back to work peddling stuff you don't want to own yourself
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Originally Posted by galen_52657

Cycling also is a melding of athlete and machine unlike any other sport. Therefore, the geek factor comes into play. So I have developed the following profile of the quintessential US cyclist:

1. To small, weak, slow or uncoordinated to make the cut on a high school sports team other than maybe bad mitten.
2. Carries a huge chip on shoulder due to #1 above.
3. Attempts to regain lost status due to #1 above by deriding other lesser cyclists.
4. If number #1 above does not apply then cyclist may have been a bench warmer and is looking for a way to be the ‘alpha’ in another sport.
5. Computer IT people, programmers, hackers and otherwise technical people who like to tinker with machines. Lots of cyclist obsess endlessly about their bike and forget that they actually have to pedal it.
6. Has an advanced degree in astrophysics or some other highly specialized field of study.

In closing, these are some of the pet names of the regular riders in my area… they say it all!

1. The Unabomber
2. Brain stem
3. Q tip
4. The Master
In all respect, I think there is some truth to this, but I think it is way overstated. In fact, the whole approach that power and strength defines a top athlete is really stupid (and IMO, full of shortcomings), but, unfortunately, very common in America. I think a sport is pretty stupid if you have to be 6 foot 4 and 250 pounds just to compete. Most people should agree since they aren't 6 four and 250 pounds. Everyone tries the ball and stick approach, take it to a certain level (maybe college) and fail to make it to the pros or play anymore. Most of these people become fat pigs sitting on chairs as home based cheerleaders on the weekend, not cyclists. Then they talk about their good ole days. Reminds me of Al Bundy on "Love and Marriage"

I played all the stick games fairly well, but I find cycling as one of the best sports and exercise that I have ever done. I also find the cycling community very polite. Sure, there is a few snobs out there, but it is less than most gyms and sporting events.

Besides, it is the norm to find a sport that ones performs the best at. That occurs with all sports. IMO, it is even better to find a sport that is great for weight control, cardiopulmonary health, and one that you can compete in ALL your life with appropriate age groups. Can you say that about many stick sports?
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bad mitten
*groan* it's badminton. Bad mitten is a fingerless glove that just isn't getting it done.


Main Entry: bad·min·ton
Pronunciation: 'bad-"min-t&n also -"mi-t&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Badminton, residence of the Duke of Beaufort, England
: a court game played with light long-handled rackets and a shuttlecock volleyed over a net

OK - now you can go back to bashing other people.
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Originally Posted by Frogger
Yeah ... but most roadies are driving new BMW and Porsche (not me) (did I mention Colnago), live in huge house (not me), dine in fine restaurant because they can now afford it in the real world where the ability to earn money (not athleticism) is king. They may still be clumsy(that's me), but they are sporting around their young trophy wife (not me).

There's nothing more pathetic than a jealous former mediocre athlete. Most former athlete although looked great in their youth are inevitable fat (under utilized overdeveloped muscles turn to fat) and bald (over-stressed aging). Also, those unnecessary pounding taken in school sports will hound you the rest on your life with aches and pains. Let us get back to work peddling stuff you don't want to own yourself
Wow, pretty harsh but not too far from the truth. I was a respectable basketball player but I screwed up my ankle and can't play anymore. Thank God for cycling and I wish I would of pursued it more in my youth.
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