sweet looking ride.

Very, very nice. I like white on black and the reverse

I like it. Perhaps you are like me; all torso, no leg?

What seat is that and how do you like riding on it? I like just a little cushion.. at least San Marco Ponza which has almost no cushion.

what are those cables doing way up there above the handlebars??

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I would be afraid the seat would snap off with all that weight on the back. If you were set up perfectly on your last bike, then why not take a level, and plumb up from the center of your spindle, and then measure back to the nose of your saddle. Then put the level on top of the saddle and measure down to top of spindle. Meassure form tip of saddle to front stem bolts and BOOM, your'e in the ballpark of your last set up. :thumb: By the way, that is a GREAT looking bike!! I want one, but people expect you to be fast and that's not gonna happen anytime soon...:(

What if getting properly fitted means you have to stay where you are or have to go back even further? It is not like there are any other seatposts that fit that frame, and as far as I know Cervelo doesn't make one with more offset.

Good luck.

Hilarious...miners are pretty f-ing amazing.

OK...my comments about your new Cervelo:
- If they actually let the bike out of the shop as photographed then they shouldn't be in business. The seat rails will buckle in that position which is ridiculous...you mentioned you were big...especially if you are big.

- Beautiful bike. Like P-caddies...the cable routing is an abomination and why I wouldn't own a S3.

- Hopefully if you need that cockpit length you can install a longer stem and then push the saddle where it belongs. Obscene really how the bike is set up as shown. Otherwise the bike is too small.

Good luck. Pretty much underscores the typical Cervelo owner...and why they take the heat they do. Kind of like a guy who likes cars and goes out and buys a Corvette and can't change his oil. Sorry about the dig. Actually one of my best riding buddies rides one and he is fast and knows what he is doing.

Cheers.

It looks to me like your seat is a bit far back. If you need any more advice on fitting feel free to contact me via PM. http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/em.../emot-smug.gif

Seriously though, that thing is beautiful. New bike teething aside it looks great and I'm practically shivering with jealousy.

Are you sure that bike actually fits you? Difficult to judge by pics, particularly without you even on the bike. However with the seat set back that far, and the amount of spacers under the stem, it looks like you maight fit better on one size up.

Bontrager cages? Zipp cages seem more appropriate.

And this is why I don't like frames which use non-standard seatposts.

So why not go for a bit larger frame then? I mean if one needs so high seatpost, long stem and backward saddle?

OP, great looking bike anyway! Could you tell which handlebars and saddle are you using?

Exactly why I can't buy one. So sad.

If you look at the pics of the OP's Trek in a couple of different threads, he had a shorter stem on the Trek, and the seat in more of a conventional position.

And in another thread, the OP said he measured himself and determined the Trek was too large and was going down a size.

All that put together would indicate to me that there is a decent chance that the setup of the Cervelo in this thread is not to accomodate an abnormally long torso, but that the OP would set up better on one frame size up.

If I were the OP, I'd go back to the people I bought the bike from, and really work on dialing in the fit, and if the answer is you need a funky set up to fit this frame, I'd seriously discuss with them the possibility of swapping frame sizes.

Because one frame size bigger, you'll be better able to get your correct seat position, without slamming the seat, and you'll get the same drop from seat to bars without having to run a bunch of spacers under the stem.

One other possibility is try the two position seat post and see if that in the 73 degree position offers any more setback than the standard seatpost.

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But that is (almost) one smoking hot bike, and I agree I've never seen a Dura-Ace crank look better.

man this bike is sweet I wish I had 5k to blow on a bike I'd get the same damn thing.

That's a little more than $5k. The frame is almost that much. Add in $2600 for the wheels and you get an idea of how much it is.

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Why do people think a long torso means you need a setback post? Your torso doesn't affect the various measurements between your butt and foot (which is all that influences setback). A long torso would show up in TT length and stem length, not setback.

Finally, someone gets it. If you think you 'need' that much setback because of a long torso, you really actually need a longer stem or TT (depending on your arm vs torso ratio).

Nice ride, however....

1. It is at LEAST 1 size too small for you, possibly 2. With such a stack height at the headtube and the crazy setback of the saddle. Saddle setback as far as i know corrects for upper/lower leg ratio so you get the correct position above the bottom bracket. The stem already looks like at around 110-120 so not much room for adjustment there.

I know people say get the smallest frame that would fit you so you can maximize stiffness and save weight, which could have been your major reason...and that brings me to

2. 404 clinchers?!?!??? Really???? From the top of my head the weight difference between 404 tubular vs clincher is 300 grams per set, maybe more. I mean these are not everyday wheels if the hassles associated with tubulars bother you. So get yourself a nice set of box section clinchers for everyday and a pair of tubular carbon 404s for showing off/race day/etc.

3. No self-respecting mechanic would leave the cables like that...That could just be me though I am very a**l when it comes to (my) equipment.

-Carcinogent.

I will add a few more comments...
Many are saying the bike is the wrong size. Not necessarily. I was with my group last night out at the park and one of the fastest guys out there is 5'9" on a 51cm Cervelo. He is a strong racer
with saddle in the middle of the seat clamp...but about a 7 inch drop...that's right...7 inches...TT position really and as stout as any TdF set up....lots of post and stem slammed to top of steerer. When out riding...with his hands on the tops...not hoods, his upper back angle was about 15 deg to horizontal....about the same as most in the drops. So...a strong rider can sustain a large drop and ride a very small frame for his size. We obviously don't have that recipe here. There isn't that much post showing for one thing so the frame maybe only one size if that smallish which is easily encompassed by set up. The OP if sticking with this size...and he is obviously a novice rider...should push his saddle closer to center and if necessary, "lower" his handlebar to increase reach compensating for moving the saddle closer to the handlebar.

Last comment made previously that I agree with and a ploy that Cervelo, Look, Trek, Giant and others do is...is they have proprietary seat posts on many of their higher end framesets. This is for revenue mostly...can't change the post on these frames. A frame is only as good as its weakest link. If the offset of the stock post doesn't work, or the micro adjustment and or post fastening design is less than best in class...you are screwed. Look who makes one of the best framesets in the world makes a suck @$$ seat post for example. This puts a great onus on making sure fit on the bike is dialed with conventional setback before you buy it as you are stuck with the post that comes on it...including ability to adjust it.

What we have here is an all too common case of a guy with more money than experience goes to a crappy bike shop who doesn't know how to fit a high end bike and the buyer blows $7-8K on his dream bike when
the most important tenent of any bicycle purchase is violated...fit.

they are more pragmatic and just run marathons now...

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