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Getting new pedals Look or Speedplay? or other?

Old 11-12-10, 12:41 PM
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Getting new pedals Look or Speedplay? or other?

I am going to get new pedals, I currently have Look but would be willing to try others. What is your experience? Are the others as easy to get in and out of as Look? Other advantages/disadvantages?
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Old 11-12-10, 12:54 PM
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I love my Time iClic pedals. Very easy in and out.
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Old 11-12-10, 01:23 PM
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Shimano (the SPD-SLs) are very similar to Looks. I've had much better luck with them than Looks. Speedplay are totally different and some people like them; other's don't and there's not much middle ground.

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Old 11-12-10, 02:01 PM
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Love my Speedplay, especially the no-look clip in when I take off. See what I did there.
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Old 11-12-10, 02:08 PM
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I want to hear about someone who has tried those incredibly small 30gram pedals. They are just the pedal axle, that's it.

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Old 11-12-10, 02:11 PM
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I used to have Looks, but I thought going across the intersections looking down to clip in was kind of dangerous. I never did get to the point where I never had to look down. The double sided nature of my Speedplay Zeros make it very easy to clip in. Others have complained about hotspots with the Speedplays, but I don't understand that since the large cleats distribute the pressure over a large area. The adjustable float is nice, too.
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Old 11-12-10, 02:39 PM
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I think before you decide on pedals, you need to decide on whether you want a shoe that you can walk in or not. Then you need to decide whether you want a single or double sided pedal. I use SPD SL's on all of my bikes. The shoes are not very easy to walk in, and you can only clip in on one side of the pedal. To me the feel of the SPD SL's is worth it.
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Old 11-12-10, 07:06 PM
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I just switched from Looks(Keo sprint) to Speedplays, I must say I like the zeros much better. They did take a little bit of break-in time, but now they're very smooth. I dont get the same hot spots i did with the Looks for some reason, but i know of other cyclists who have had the opposite reaction. The Zeros feel more secure even though they have more float and are much easier to clip into as mentioned.
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Old 11-12-10, 08:30 PM
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On the incredible 30gm Aerolite pedals:

I used Aerolites years ago, and the new ones seem to be a nearly identical design - just the material and shape of the clip is slightly different.

My experience is that I hated them after a half season. Zero float was the first problem, and many attempts to adjust the position never quite solved nagging knee issues (which I have never had with any other pedal set-up).

The second problem was the effort clipping in, which was a bit more than I would like, and then the effort clipping out, which was much more than I would like, After a hard ride I got used to stopping and leaning or hanging on to something so I could unclip safely.

The third problem was the bulk of the clip, which seems to be the same still. Don't even think about trying to walk around in those!
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Old 11-12-10, 10:25 PM
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I ride speedplay light action and love them. yes the cleat is pretty big compared to the old school spd I was using w/ my atacs, but its not as hard to walk on as you may think. double sided, no look entry, easy twist out, plenty of float, and Ive yet to have an unintentional release (heh heh)
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I recently switched from Look to Speedplay zeroes and LOVE the Speedplays. Aside from the other reasons other users have given I can't elaborate too much but to me the Speedplays are more comfortable and mesh better with me over all.
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Tough call.....I've heard people complain of hot spots and troublle clicking in/out with both. For me, the Look pedals work best. I would imagine your LBS (or a friend) has a bike outfitted with Speedplay.....see if you can't get a quick spin in and make an educated decision.
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Old 11-12-10, 11:00 PM
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...I should add that I'm switching from Speedplay to Keo's in spring. I never had any issues with how the Speedplay's worked - the float, release mechanism, walkability, etc were all fine - but basically they didn't last very well. 7,000 miles wore out one set of bearings, and a complete rebuild lasted only 3,000. Maybe the Keo's will last about the same, but I figure they're worth a try.

The other issue is weight - the speedplay is a light pedal - about 25 grams less than the Keo depending on model, but the cleat is about 126 grams. You can get a cheap Keo carbon cleat at 40 grams.
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Old 11-12-10, 11:37 PM
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Just switched from Looks to SPD-SL. Disengagement is more difficult than Looks at the lowest tension setting, but I am sick and tired of blowing through Look cleats because they can't be arsed to make a durable cleat.
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Old 11-13-10, 05:15 AM
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Look invented the clipless pedal. Nothing else needs to be said. Their new blade series is great.

I have ridden Look since day one. And I don't need a grease gun to maintenance my pedals or worry whether the little springy bars in the cleat are dirty. And I have no idea what people are talking about when have to glance down to clip in. Mine never flip upside down.
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Originally Posted by deep_sky View Post
Just switched from Looks to SPD-SL. Disengagement is more difficult than Looks at the lowest tension setting, but I am sick and tired of blowing through Look cleats because they can't be arsed to make a durable cleat.
Don't hike in them.
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Old 11-13-10, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by daxr View Post
...I should add that I'm switching from Speedplay to Keo's in spring. I never had any issues with how the Speedplay's worked - the float, release mechanism, walkability, etc were all fine - but basically they didn't last very well. 7,000 miles wore out one set of bearings, and a complete rebuild lasted only 3,000. Maybe the Keo's will last about the same, but I figure they're worth a try.

The other issue is weight - the speedplay is a light pedal - about 25 grams less than the Keo depending on model, but the cleat is about 126 grams. You can get a cheap Keo carbon cleat at 40 grams.
Maybe you knew this, but the screw on the end of the pedal (the outside end away from the bike) is a grease port and you have to maintenance the pedals. Speedplay actually sells a grease gun to do that with. It sounds as if that might be your issue here, but switching to Look is a very good decision, in my opinion.

Ridden Looks virtually since the invention of the clipless pedal.
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
Look invented the clipless pedal.
Didn't the guy who created Look's clipless pedals leave to start making new designs for Time?

Also, go back to what joe_5700 said -- shoes first, then choose pedals. rollingrock, sounds like you've got your shoes already, though, so you're certainly looking for different pedals.

I'd give Time a try, whether it's their RXS or i-Clic lines. I've only had my RXS pedals for a few months, but I like them a bit better than the CB pedals I was using before. The brass part that does the actual retention is pretty well-protected from scuffs and pavement wear, and the pedals haven't clogged with dirt yet.
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
Don't hike in them.


I don't hike in my cycling shoes; cleat covers for when I am off the bike for more than a few steps.
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
Didn't the guy who created Look's clipless pedals leave to start making new designs for Time?

Also, go back to what joe_5700 said -- shoes first, then choose pedals. rollingrock, sounds like you've got your shoes already, though, so you're certainly looking for different pedals.

I'd give Time a try, whether it's their RXS or i-Clic lines. I've only had my RXS pedals for a few months, but I like them a bit better than the CB pedals I was using before. The brass part that does the actual retention is pretty well-protected from scuffs and pavement wear, and the pedals haven't clogged with dirt yet.
I have tried time rxs carbon pedals and I think they are pretty good iclic are proberly better.Got the look keo max and for me its a better pedal but its a very very close call.Both systems are excellent,I really don't have any experience with speedplays.
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Originally Posted by deep_sky View Post


I don't hike in my cycling shoes; cleat covers for when I am off the bike for more than a few steps.
I've "hiked" through dirt & mud to get where I needed to go, and it helped that I was able to use the cleats for better traction as if they were football cleats.
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I race, so for me easy "in" is good and easy "out" is bad. Not being able to go "in" easy means being at the back of the pack at the beginning of the race. Going "out" during a sprint means finishing DFL or even causing a massive crash when you were in position to contend. For me being rock solid connected to the pedals is much more important than easy "in".

Look KEO's work for me. Other pedals work for other people. If I wasn't racing I'd probably do with something double-sided with a soft spring.
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I love my Speedplay Zeros. Double sided entry is a plus. Never a problem clipping in or out. Make sure you lube the cleat and the pedal perodically.
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I would tend to argue that hotspots are caused more by insole/foot issues than anything else. I went from regular SPD to Looks and love it. I feel like the bigger platform helps, though it could be in my head. I did have a hotspot issue on day 1 but changed to my regular insoles and tweaked my cleat position to my fit and they went away. Easy in and out can be adjusted on pretty much any pedal except for that 30 gram one. I wouldn't get looks to walk around in more than a few steps. The cleats do go pretty quickly so factor that in if you're a big commuter.
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They introduced the first really popular clipless pedal but they certainly didn't invent them. Look has had good and bad pedals like everyone else. I bought my first Look pedals in 84 btw.

Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
Look invented the clipless pedal. Nothing else needs to be said. Their new blade series is great.

I have ridden Look since day one. And I don't need a grease gun to maintenance my pedals or worry whether the little springy bars in the cleat are dirty. And I have no idea what people are talking about when have to glance down to clip in. Mine never flip upside down.
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