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Ever Feel Better Climbing Than On Flats?

Old 11-13-10, 09:29 PM
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Ever Feel Better Climbing Than On Flats?

On Thursday, I rode a tough 55 miles with crosswinds hammering us the entire time. I worked hard, but felt strong.

I didn't get any sort of recovery ride in yesterday since I had to work.

Today I couldn't keep the pace of the group from the outset of a 70 mile ride. We had to seriously back off the pace and keep me sheltered the entire time. Being a coastal ride, it was pretty flat. About the only significant climb was the mile and a quarter climb up Torrey Pines 50 miles in which never gets above 7%. Surprisingly, I was able to spin easily up the hill even though I struggled even when drafting on the flats.

I guess the questions are 1) Is that normal when you have dead legs?
2) Should I still plan on a recovery ride tomorrow or would it be more beneficial to rest the legs?
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Sounds like me on a normal day. I'm sorta slow on the flats but fairly strong up the hills.
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Here we go again...
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Originally Posted by Blackdays
Here we go again...
Do you just have a macro for that? Do you have anything constructive to add or just like to boost your post count with the same weak ass line in every thread?
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1) yes
2)Listen to your body, meaning it's relative for you.
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Originally Posted by thesmoothdome
Do you just have a macro for that? Do you have anything constructive to add or just like to boost your post count with the same weak ass line in every thread?
These threads always turn into peen measuring contests.
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I feel better climbing when I'm climbing better than the pack that is steadily falling behind me . . .
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Originally Posted by Blackdays
These threads always turn into peen measuring contests.
Didn't mean it to be. Actually haven't experienced this since I started riding last year. Looking for honest advice here and yes, it's easy to listen to the body. It says rest, but it doesn't always know what's best for it .
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Originally Posted by thesmoothdome
Didn't mean it to be. Actually haven't experienced this since I started riding last year. Looking for honest advice here and yes, it's easy to listen to the body. It says rest, but it doesn't always know what's best for it .
Your mean well, but the scourge of the 41 will soon find this thread and make claims such as: "I'm slower than my Cat 1 friends on the flats, but shell them on the hills!"
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I don't think I have ever felt better climbing than I do when I ride flat ground.
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I'm slower than my Cat 1 friends on the flats, but shell them on the hills
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In comparison to others? Yes. I weigh 140lbs, I have an advantage on hills.
In comparison to myself? I don't hit a hill and go, OH MAN, thank god, those flats were getting tough. Only time I have ever done that was last weekend when it was 30+mph headwinds, and I knew the climbs were sheltered, so I was praying for some climbs.
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Glad to hear it felt easy. I live in San Diego to and I know the ride. We might have passed each other today. I did Mira Mesa to Oceanside Harbor out and back between 11a-3p, 61 miles.

Sometimes sections feel easy until I look down at my Watts reading and realize it's easy because my power go bye-bye and I'm in a ridiculously easy gear. If tomorrow's as nice as it was today I'd recommend another ride. GL
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Some days the hills feel as easy and relaxing as a day at the spa. You can find your rhythm, stand up, and relax and just 'walk' up the mountain. I actually find that steep hills are easier than the flats when there is a cross/headwind. This, coming from someone who is strong on the flats and hates climbing (though, I find myself having a sort of twisted enjoyment doing big climbs more and more lately...)
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Originally Posted by thesmoothdome
Today I couldn't keep the pace of the group from the outset of a 70 mile ride. We had to seriously back off the pace and keep me sheltered the entire time.
You mean the group slowed down for you? Maybe they took it easy up the hill as well.
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Originally Posted by thesmoothdome
On Thursday, I rode a tough 55 miles with crosswinds hammering us the entire time. I worked hard, but felt strong.

I didn't get any sort of recovery ride in yesterday since I had to work.

Today I couldn't keep the pace of the group from the outset of a 70 mile ride. We had to seriously back off the pace and keep me sheltered the entire time. Being a coastal ride, it was pretty flat. About the only significant climb was the mile and a quarter climb up Torrey Pines 50 miles in which never gets above 7%. Surprisingly, I was able to spin easily up the hill even though I struggled even when drafting on the flats.

I guess the questions are 1) Is that normal when you have dead legs?
2) Should I still plan on a recovery ride tomorrow or would it be more beneficial to rest the legs?
I did the same climb today. I suffered the entire time. But yesterday when we climbed Mt. Soledad I was the one dishing out the pain.
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I love climbing hills...granted, I am always getting passed...but still, I love them hills. It gives me a sense of accomplishment.
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Originally Posted by rat fink
Some days the hills feel as easy and relaxing as a day at the spa. You can find your rhythm, stand up, and relax and just 'walk' up the mountain.
I wish this were true for me! I've never been able to find a rhythm going up a hill.
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i hate climbing. every time.
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Can't stand flats. If I ride from home, I have to do 15 miles to get to the mountains. The one thing that keeps me going is knowing that they are waiting for me.

I'm not fast on either flats nor mountains, but on the mountains I feel like I'm home.
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Originally Posted by coasting
i hate climbing. every time.
Me too. Hate crosswinds aswell. Hate going downhill too fast. And sometimes its all fine. I´m a flatland rider so hills are a question of the state of my mind. But it´s great when them hills go easy. And I never know why...
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rest is NOT over rated. A day off will do your legs good, and make you stronger when you next go out for a ride.
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Originally Posted by gregf83
You mean the group slowed down for you? Maybe they took it easy up the hill as well.
On the hills we all find our own pace and regroup up top. Not to start the peen contest that Blackdays fears, but although I didn't push very hard on the climb, I finished the climb in front of the same people I normally do and behind the same ones I normally do. I just couldn't sustain any sort of effort on the flats. You know it's a long day when the you see the guy in front of you look over his shoulder every 30 seconds or so and then backpedal until you close the gap.
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If you were sheltered on the flats then you were rested just before the hill. Rest is good but you can still be active some other way. Do not compensate by eating a bag of Cheetos during the rest day though.
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Anything longer than a minute or two and I find myself in front of guys who routinely drop me on the flats. Unfortunately, this country is 99% flat.
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