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NYRider 11-15-10 10:43 AM

Avg Speed
 
Does anybody else has this issue?

My avg speed on the road is faster than when I am on the KK trainer. I would assume that the road would be slower because of Red light and stop signs, but this is not the case. Am I tightening the knob on the trainer too tight? If I use less resistance the wheel slips.

Spring Water 11-15-10 10:45 AM

You may want to invest in one of these...
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/tng1.jpg

ridethatbike 11-15-10 10:48 AM

What happened to his feet?

Spring Water 11-15-10 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by fatroadie (Post 11789570)
What happened to his feet?

He was going to fast.

merlinextraligh 11-15-10 10:54 AM

The speed on your trainer, as it relates to the road is completely irrelevant.

The only reason you would even care about speed on the trainer is if you're using the KK power curve to estimate your power.

So don't worry about how it correlates to the road.

You should be measuring your efforts on the trainer by time and intensity. And you measure the intensity by perceived effort, HRM or a power meter, in order of preference.

Again the only way you would use speed on the trainer is to estimate power against a known power curve. And what that curve says will likley have little relevance to your power at a given speed on the road.

Campag4life 11-15-10 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Spring Water (Post 11789573)
He was going to fast.

+1...feet burnt off due to friction. I wear the same suit on group rides while riding my Cervelo.

OP...don't pay much attention to the correlation between the trainer and the road.
Get yourself a good cheap computer for your road bike. If you can average more than 14 mph without stopping,
you should turn pro.

gregf83 11-15-10 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by NYRider (Post 11789547)
Does anybody else has this issue?

My avg speed on the road is faster than when I am on the KK trainer. I would assume that the road would be slower because of Red light and stop signs, but this is not the case. Am I tightening the knob on the trainer too tight? If I use less resistance the wheel slips.

The KK trainer resistance is supposed to be roughly equivalent to a 165lb rider going up a 1% hill so it will take a little more power than riding on the road at an equivalent speed. Also, most people put out less power on a trainer compared to riding on the road.

As others have said, speed on the trainer is arbitrary and will vary depending on the make and model of trainer used.

umd 11-15-10 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 11789609)
The speed on your trainer, as it relates to the road is completely irrelevant.

+1

rouleour 11-15-10 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by NYRider (Post 11789547)
Does anybody else has this issue?

My avg speed on the road is faster than when I am on the KK trainer. I would assume that the road would be slower because of Red light and stop signs, but this is not the case. Am I tightening the knob on the trainer too tight? If I use less resistance the wheel slips.

don't get so caught up on the Avg speed thing!, is not that relevant to measure your progress.

The trainer is there to simulate a ride on the road, but is not exactly like riding on the road. nothing beats the real thing!...

the feeling varies from trainer to trainer as well as the effort you put in. (me personally cannot spend more then an 90 min. on mine) I think the trainer is harder to ride than the road.(using similar gears) so just ride your bike as much as you can outdoors, and when you ride indoors enjoy it! (have workout plan; intervals, climb reps, etc, etc..) and try not to focus too much on Avg Speed!!:thumb:

rouleour 11-15-10 11:06 AM

Damn! I've got to work on my speed!.... I thought I was going to be the first one to respond!:eek:

tagaproject6 11-15-10 11:07 AM

Awesome potential this thread has!

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Oostal 11-15-10 11:21 AM

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...one can never get enough of the average speed threads

Grumpy McTrumpy 11-15-10 11:22 AM

I can.

The_Cretin 11-15-10 11:41 AM

Average speed is largely unimportant indoors but of supreme importance outdoors. Be sure to post a myriad of average speed-related questions here in the spring.

KiddSisko 11-15-10 01:44 PM

I checked my average speed after a long ride this weekend. With over 4K feet of climbing and descending in equal amounts, my average speed should have been much higher than it was. I was disappointed.

slowandsteady 11-15-10 01:50 PM

Just try to maintain your outdoor average speed while on some small diameter rollers.... You will be slower than ever.

Spring Water 11-15-10 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by KiddSisko (Post 11790795)
I checked my average speed after a long ride this weekend. With over 4K feet of climbing and descending in equal amounts, my average speed should have been much higher than it was. I was disappointed.

It's an easy fix, just try and dial back the suck.

KiddSisko 11-15-10 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Spring Water (Post 11790847)
It's an easy fix, just try and dial back the suck.

I need one of those negative suck dials.

DScott 11-15-10 02:32 PM

I'm going with "knob is too tight".

Who's with me?

Spring Water 11-15-10 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by DScott (Post 11791094)
I'm going with "knob is too tight".

Who's with me?

No.

datlas 11-15-10 02:35 PM

I wish they would put "average speed" on the banned word filter like bull****.

Spring Water 11-15-10 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 11791106)
I wish they would put "average speed" on the banned word filter like bull****.

That's not a bad idea.

jmX 11-15-10 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by NYRider (Post 11789547)
My avg speed on the road is faster than when I am on the KK trainer.

Yes, my speeds are slightly slower on the KK trainer, and as others have said, it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean anything is wrong.

DScott 11-15-10 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Spring Water (Post 11791102)
No.

Ok. Then what about how the trainer is set up?

botto 11-15-10 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by NYRider (Post 11789547)
Does anybody else has this issue?

no.


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